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Jan 24 09:41:16 * hengsin (n=chatzill@60.51.104.42) has joined #adempiere
Jan 24 09:41:44 <josh-conversant> hi hengsin :) I take it you are my mentor for BugDay?
Jan 24 09:41:47 <hengsin> red1: Selamat Pagi :)
Jan 24 09:42:14 <hengsin> I'm working today but will try to help where possible.
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Jan 24 09:43:26 <red1> Apa khabar hengsin .. u dont have to answer.. i know u re busy enough for our sake
Jan 24 09:43:40 <red1> guys this is hengsin.. our Commit Head
Jan 24 09:44:18 <josh-conversant> :)
Jan 24 09:45:17 <racd> hello hengsin, nice to know u
Jan 24 09:45:19 <red1> perhaps to explain abit.. we use trackers alot.. and we monitor that .. i.e. auto get emails from them
Jan 24 09:45:29 <josephnexus> YAY... pljava finished installing on this machine
Jan 24 09:45:52 <red1> bugs and features requests.. etc... so that its easy to track tings and as they prorgress along
Jan 24 09:46:25 <red1> we use forums for discussions... to make things visible again for tracking dicussions, that are bit unsure about bugs etc
Jan 24 09:46:31 <xp_prg> I mean josh-conversant were are you from?
Jan 24 09:51:44 <ramiro> gtg
Jan 24 09:51:48 <ramiro> later
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Jan 24 09:53:41 <josh-conversant> im from New Zealand
Jan 24 09:58:11 <racd> for adempiere login window, why adempiere should display "Server" (server setting connection).
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Jan 24 09:59:01 <racd> can we just remove it, and only certain2 user will see the field during login.
Jan 24 09:59:35 <racd> i think this "server" can cause a lot of confusion for the normal user.
Jan 24 10:00:16 <josh-conversant> i dont see why not as the server is set in Adempier.properties
Jan 24 10:00:53 <josh-conversant> you will need to edit the source and perhaps compile a few different versions of the client
Jan 24 10:00:55 <red1> hmm good question
Jan 24 10:01:10 <racd> and its also may cause the end user can simply change the setting during login
Jan 24 10:01:36 <red1> hengsin has done silent setup routine to make it easier for lay users to setup
Jan 24 10:01:39 <josh-conversant> why not use the web UI?
Jan 24 10:01:54 <red1> maybe racd idea can make it more silent rite up to the dialog box
Jan 24 10:02:00 <racd> may u right josh.
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Jan 24 10:02:13 <red1> our webui like i said earlier i tested yesterday has gone bonkers
Jan 24 10:02:22 <red1> cant access any windows
Jan 24 10:02:28 <josh-conversant> :'(
Jan 24 10:02:35 <red1> i am tracking some more bugs that are high in the priority list
Jan 24 10:02:45 <red1> at least to replicate them
Jan 24 10:03:01 <red1> and understand further if its true or not been a bug or is there a workaround
Jan 24 10:03:13 <josh-conversant> racd: The login gui and settings are either hard coded or populated from Adempiere.properties so compiling a few versions of the client would be an easy alternative
Jan 24 10:03:27 <red1> i would peer into the codes, my vista allowing... my eclipse keep getting bommbed
Jan 24 10:03:27 <racd> if not webui, maybe we can use simple UI that only show Username, password and language field.
Jan 24 10:03:42 <red1> yes racd it sounds logical
Jan 24 10:04:18 <red1> i think its a matter of turning it off the screen.. and maybe have a admin button to turn it back on
Jan 24 10:04:31 <red1> why dont u try it racd and post it to contributions :)
Jan 24 10:04:52 <red1> or just post a dummy screen to SF and ask others what they think
Jan 24 10:04:59 <josh-conversant> I cannot get the Role,Client & Org fields to populate using the Web UI in either firefox2 or ie7.. I have got them to populate when u log in as a client who has only one role
Jan 24 10:05:01 <red1> i m sure its a good idea.. didnt think of it!
Jan 24 10:05:02 <racd> and we can set special user and password who can change the server setting
Jan 24 10:05:24 <red1> i could get it josh-conversant ..last trunk yesterday
Jan 24 10:05:32 <red1> i using IE on vista
Jan 24 10:05:57 <racd> o.k red1
Jan 24 10:05:57 <red1> yeah racd.. so we only allow superuser login then he can see the server setting
Jan 24 10:06:09 <red1> if he login as normal user he cannot see that
Jan 24 10:06:20 <racd> that right.
Jan 24 10:06:24 <red1> better user experience i suppose
Jan 24 10:06:33 <josh-conversant> but the login screen settings (the first screen loaded) does not get any info from database
Jan 24 10:06:53 <red1> yeah..what i think racd mean is that it need not just yet
Jan 24 10:07:00 <red1> so no need to show those fields
Jan 24 10:07:10 <josh-conversant> so the setting whether or not to display the server field would have to be built in to the client
Jan 24 10:07:11 <red1> just have a usual simple login first
Jan 24 10:07:16 <red1> yep
Jan 24 10:07:22 <red1> thats what i think racd propose
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Jan 24 10:07:36 <red1> if u login as say SuperAdmin then system reveal for u to do more
Jan 24 10:07:45 <josh-conversant> yea but what if you are SuperUser and u need to set up which server to login too
Jan 24 10:07:46 <red1> for normal users.. u know.. they re dumb
Jan 24 10:07:56 <racd> as superuser, maybe another window that consist of this server setting after login screen
Jan 24 10:08:00 <red1> u sign in first
Jan 24 10:08:38 <red1> or just part of the first window as a nother tab that appears when u sign in right
Jan 24 10:08:40 <josh-conversant> but if server setting wrong and u want to login as SuperUser to change it, how will you log in without the client knowing which server to talk to?
Jan 24 10:08:52 <racd> yes right
Jan 24 10:08:52 <red1> u go to properties then
Jan 24 10:08:58 <red1> its an admin job
Jan 24 10:09:03 <josh-conversant> yea
Jan 24 10:09:04 <red1> sounds techie
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Jan 24 10:09:12 <red1> but that means its a techie job
Jan 24 10:09:51 <red1> now hengsin has already made that simpler
Jan 24 10:10:10 <red1> he has allowed bypass of checkign the server as we used to do in compiere each time we login
Jan 24 10:10:20 <red1> but the server field still appears
Jan 24 10:10:43 <josh-conversant> racd: there a few options, maybe like red1 said, build a client where there is no server field.. when the server needs to be set the admin goes and edits Adempiere.properties
Jan 24 10:10:44 <red1> so i think we just put a well written note there
Jan 24 10:10:45 <hengsin> josh-conversant: the web ui is beta only, we should concentrate first on the swing client and adempiere core bugs for now.
Jan 24 10:11:09 <red1> hear ye
Jan 24 10:11:12 <racd> i think in one organization, only certain person etc: chief Clerk that able to change the setting
Jan 24 10:11:29 <racd> not all the user
Jan 24 10:11:54 <red1> nyway, we can look at other ERPs and see how they do it..for now lets get our bug day warm up
Jan 24 10:12:06 <red1> lets go to the trackers and comb the bugs threads
Jan 24 10:12:08 <hengsin> josh-conversant - server setting can't be managed remotely using Adempeire client at the moment.
Jan 24 10:12:38 <red1> hengsin, so its only at server side?
Jan 24 10:12:44 <hengsin> red1, yes.
Jan 24 10:13:10 <red1> then maybe racd can help design a client only interface that doesnt need that not in use server settings
Jan 24 10:13:16 <hengsin> for end user, the normal routine is to connect to the application server and the rest of the setting will be populated from the server.
Jan 24 10:13:26 <red1> or propopse it under FR = Feature request.. so that others can help to do it
Jan 24 10:13:48 <red1> last time i tot we could do it..
Jan 24 10:13:58 <red1> perhaps due to the new changes for security..
Jan 24 10:14:08 <hengsin> also, the application server field will be auto populated if using webstart.
Jan 24 10:14:29 <red1> yes thatrs rite.. since it fetches already from that server it pointed to
Jan 24 10:14:33 <hengsin> anyway, we should concentrate on bug for today :)
Jan 24 10:14:38 <racd> is my plesure to design the screen
Jan 24 10:14:46 <red1> yep! to the trackers!
Jan 24 10:15:19 <red1> racd, u can look thru the bugs in SF.. and see which one u think u familiar with.. i think thats how we shall all start
Jan 24 10:15:32 <red1> and we can enter comments there, or discuss here if needed
Jan 24 10:17:40 <josh-conversant> hengsin: I am new to Adempiere, have spent a few weeks using it and have managed to add a new LDAP class which connects to a OpenLDAP server, i have also added a customer PaymentProcessor which uses my banks API.. I am not too familar with ERP systems nor with Adempiere.. I will have a look over the bugs and find something simple.. I am looking to become an active developer and contribute back all code i develop
Jan 24 10:18:44 <hengsin> yeap, we need more hand and eye ;)
Jan 24 10:20:11 <hengsin> for new feature, carlos have just added bsh scripting for callout, if someone can add groovy support, that will be great ( it is not very difficult but is of high value ).
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Jan 24 10:30:53 <red1> if josh-conversant solve a few bugs u most probably be in our dev list with commit rights in no time!
Jan 24 10:31:01 <red1> we have simple rules
Jan 24 10:31:15 <red1> if u re good and well behaved u go up :-)
Jan 24 10:31:42 <red1> that explains why i m still down here *lol*
Jan 24 10:32:16 <red1> groovy support? hmm sumtin kontro shuld do for us
Jan 24 10:32:40 <josh-conversant> haha ok cool, i doubt i will solve any today but i will definitly work on some over the next few weeks
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Jan 24 10:49:02 <red1> if u need help josh-conversant howla my name.. i m busy going thru the closet here..
Jan 24 10:49:45 <red1> i m using xhcat2 behind the other windows.. so i cant see your posts until u mention my nick.. then it lites up and i know someone called
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Jan 24 10:57:43 <racd> before this i found a problem in the product info window, and i already mention it in the forum
Jan 24 10:57:46 <racd> http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1898688&forum_id=610548
Jan 24 10:59:09 <racd> i want to add in the bug tracker,however i dont know weather this is bugs or not
Jan 24 11:03:10 <red1> ok wait i try to check
Jan 24 11:03:51 <red1> as i told there.. i think it happenened before not due to bug
Jan 24 11:04:01 <red1> can u confirm it still happens racd?
Jan 24 11:04:09 <red1> did u investigate since u have the source
Jan 24 11:06:12 <racd> i did a research, and i found that the core of this problem maybe in the process of receiving material.
Jan 24 11:07:28 <xp_prg> ok see you all tomorrow
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Jan 24 11:11:04 <red1> bye! xp_gone
Jan 24 11:11:24 <red1> racd.. u can write some more on what u found
Jan 24 11:11:28 <red1> so that it can be proven
Jan 24 11:11:56 <red1> i notice this bug before.. but sometimes only
Jan 24 11:12:02 <red1> intermittent bug i think
Jan 24 11:14:06 * red1 has changed the topic to: Welcome, and join in the http://www.adempiere.com/wiki/index.php/Bug_Day_January_2008 TODAY! Depending on your time zone, those bugs have come in different ethic colours. Just be patient and have fun! Anything, just yell our names. We may have too much bugs for breakfast.
Jan 24 11:14:35 * red1 has changed the topic to: Welcome, and join in the http://www.adempiere.com/wiki/index.php/Bug_Day_January_2008 TODAY! Depending on your time zone, those bugs come in different ethic colours. Just be patient and have fun! Anything, just yell our names. We may have too much bugs for breakfast.
Jan 24 11:19:24 <racd> red1: ok
Jan 24 11:19:51 <red1> solve satu pun cukupla :)) sekurangkurang ade nama
Jan 24 11:21:59 * CarlosRuiz (n=Carlos@190.157.104.80) has joined #adempiere
Jan 24 11:22:39 <red1> guys.. this is CarlosRuiz .. he is just about to go to bed in Colombia
Jan 24 11:22:49 <CarlosRuiz> Hi everybody
Jan 24 11:22:59 <josh-conversant> red1: do you know how to use a payment processor via the client? It works using webstore but the client doesn't seem to use it
Jan 24 11:23:00 <red1> CarlosRuiz is our head of PMC... the man behind most of the big stuff
Jan 24 11:23:11 <josh-conversant> hi Carlos
Jan 24 11:23:13 <red1> u mean the java client?
Jan 24 11:23:17 <josh-conversant> red1: yes
Jan 24 11:23:31 <red1> i have tried on java client.. i seen it worked on web
Jan 24 11:23:43 <red1> do u use and IDE?
Jan 24 11:23:51 <red1> an IDE if u need to debug
Jan 24 11:24:46 <red1> racd... have u seach the bug trackers?
Jan 24 11:24:58 <josh-conversant> red1: yes i use eclipse
Jan 24 11:24:58 <racd> hi carlos
Jan 24 11:25:20 <red1> sorry josh-conversant .. i meant to say, "I have NOT tried on ajav client"
Jan 24 11:25:51 <josh-conversant> oh ok, i will debug to understand the process better
Jan 24 11:25:52 <red1> racd, to get ppl's long names just type carlos and 'tab' key
Jan 24 11:26:17 <josh-conversant> red1: good tip, the 'tab' thing that is
Jan 24 11:26:18 <CarlosRuiz> :-) didn't know that trick Redhuan
Jan 24 11:26:38 <red1> oh no! CarlosRuiz is either lying or embarassing himself
Jan 24 11:26:45 <josh-conversant> haha
Jan 24 11:27:03 <red1> at least for the first time in my life.. i managed to teach the great CarlosRuiz
Jan 24 11:27:09 <CarlosRuiz> none of the options - I like to learn
Jan 24 11:27:12 <red1> i should be promoted
Jan 24 11:27:38 <CarlosRuiz> and it's not the first time - there must be something like the 892th time
Jan 24 11:27:50 <red1> and my own employed staff racd lead me to it.. wonderful surprise to me
Jan 24 11:28:17 <red1> thank you CarlosRuiz
Jan 24 11:28:37 <CarlosRuiz> :-) thanks to you
Jan 24 11:28:49 <red1> josh-conversant is from New Zealand... our newest member
Jan 24 11:28:57 <red1> and he knows java.. thank god
Jan 24 11:29:23 <red1> i m here to help the newbies... at least to go past my level of basic debugging
Jan 24 11:29:47 <red1> racd, SH, ijam_duo are my staff
Jan 24 11:29:58 <red1> i ordered them to be here :P
Jan 24 11:30:18 <josh-conversant> CarlosRuiz: would you happen to know if the Java Client uses the Payment Processors at all?
Jan 24 11:30:38 <red1> in the new POS u mean josh-conversant ?
Jan 24 11:30:50 <red1> sorry the incumvent POS client
Jan 24 11:30:54 <CarlosRuiz> I've seen a button "Online" in Payment window
Jan 24 11:31:11 <red1> i heard trifon trying to finish it
Jan 24 11:31:18 <red1> we now have two POS
Jan 24 11:31:24 <CarlosRuiz> it must be calling the class org.compiere.process.PaymentOnline
Jan 24 11:31:24 <red1> one is java, the other Posterita
Jan 24 11:31:37 <red1> and 1 more the incumbent WebStore
Jan 24 11:33:40 <red1> ijam_duo, the conversation u had with trifon .. u can paste it in SF or your own wiki as sub topic.. u can edit out any private info ..
Jan 24 11:34:06 <red1> hope racd pass this to ijam_duo .. cos that YM he had is important info for replication
Jan 24 11:34:20 <red1> at least for other newbies
Jan 24 11:36:20 <josh-conversant> CarlosRuiz: Yea the online button does the trick, i think where it is place is a little misleading
Jan 24 11:37:12 <josh-conversant> CarlosRuiz: it is placed right next to the "Voice Auth Code" as if it relates to that field, no probs though
Jan 24 11:37:19 <racd> red1: i also did search on bug tracker, for product in problem. but there is no such problem in the list
Jan 24 11:37:46 <red1> its strange because its such a common bug u saying
Jan 24 11:37:54 <red1> how come others dont have this bug?
Jan 24 11:38:15 <red1> u can post in that SF thread earlier how u test for it..
Jan 24 11:38:21 <red1> does it still happen now?
Jan 24 11:38:24 <racd> is there anybody got the same problem?
Jan 24 11:39:13 <red1> actually what u propose may be a new feature
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Jan 24 11:39:25 <red1> here not enough ppl to ansewr fast..
Jan 24 11:39:29 <racd> maybe rarely use by the others, that why they not realize this problem
Jan 24 11:39:31 <red1> salam panji_alam !!
Jan 24 11:39:37 <panji_alam> salam bro
Jan 24 11:39:37 <red1> lama tak jumpe!
Jan 24 11:39:45 <panji_alam> biasa, over bz
Jan 24 11:39:52 <red1> yes racd .. i think u re rite
Jan 24 11:39:58 <racd> salam panji alam
Jan 24 11:40:04 <panji_alam> salam racd
Jan 24 11:40:05 <red1> if u can try to corect the code and upload as contributions
Jan 24 11:40:28 <red1> and post your thread as FR in SF
Jan 24 11:40:45 <red1> unless u think its a bug
Jan 24 11:40:56 <red1> u can still post the bug and upload your correction later
Jan 24 11:41:06 <red1> then others will look at it and give feedback
Jan 24 11:41:16 <racd> as i seen right here, a lot of people just focus the big2 functionality till they dont realize this small2 functionality problem
Jan 24 11:41:34 <red1> panji_alam, one bug = sepuluh rial
Jan 24 11:41:49 <red1> not so racd ... there are many small bugs solved in the tracker
Jan 24 11:42:02 <panji_alam> hahaha, that much?
Jan 24 11:42:08 <red1> just that bugs creep and they are loopholes
Jan 24 11:42:17 <red1> inflasi bro
Jan 24 11:42:34 <red1> panji_alam, where are your other contacts? kata nak passing kat aku
Jan 24 11:43:38 <panji_alam> ooo, sudah cakap dkt die org
Jan 24 11:43:44 <panji_alam> tunggu jugak resume die org
Jan 24 11:44:28 <red1> racd .. pls write your post in Bugs
Jan 24 11:44:38 <red1> put as priority normal 5
Jan 24 11:44:46 <red1> but write in detail the steps how u get it
Jan 24 11:44:55 <red1> and then your sugestion also.. it is good
Jan 24 11:45:06 <red1> thanks panji_alam
Jan 24 11:45:17 <red1> wana standby for growth
Jan 24 11:46:51 <red1> racd i think CarlosRuiz has written about this
Jan 24 11:47:08 <red1> cos i read wrongly.. yours is about inventory move but also about login warehouse
Jan 24 11:47:36 <red1> carlos has put in bugs report that login different warehouse not handled properly during save
Jan 24 11:47:55 <red1> so maybe u can check for that bug and see if u track it diferently
Jan 24 11:48:07 <red1> maybe by that u solve both bugs!
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Jan 24 11:51:27 <blackarmpit> hi room
Jan 24 11:51:29 <blackarmpit> hi all
Jan 24 11:52:21 <josh-conversant> hello blackarmpit
Jan 24 11:53:35 <blackarmpit> hello josh
Jan 24 11:53:40 <blackarmpit> how do u do?
Jan 24 11:54:19 <blackarmpit> dimana mr ridwan?
Jan 24 11:54:31 <blackarmpit> :D
Jan 24 11:55:41 <red1> i m here
Jan 24 11:55:50 <red1> have to go out for errands
Jan 24 11:56:13 <red1> pls help us squash a bug...
Jan 24 11:57:13 <blackarmpit> ok, soon after SVN finished its job :D
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Jan 24 11:59:35 <CarlosRuiz> going to sleep - need to be fresh at 15GMT
Jan 24 12:01:01 <josh-conversant> blackarmpit: sorry afk, im good thanks :)
Jan 24 12:01:20 <josh-conversant> work is closing see you guys later :)
Jan 24 12:01:49 <josh-conversant> I'll be back first thing tomorrow
Jan 24 12:01:56 <josh-conversant> bye
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Jan 24 12:03:00 <blackarmpit> pak ridwan, saya pusing lihatin code :D
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Jan 24 12:54:02 <muthah> https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1921152&forum_id=108148
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Jan 24 12:55:26 <muthah> hello hengsin
Jan 24 12:55:29 <muthah> https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1921152&forum_id=108148
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Jan 24 13:15:49 <phib> hi all, how's it going
Jan 24 13:36:45 <SH> hye phib
Jan 24 13:42:33 * mark_ostermann (n=Miranda@pD9E809A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #adempiere
Jan 24 13:43:33 <mark_ostermann> good morning everybody
Jan 24 13:44:05 <SH> here noon
Jan 24 13:44:12 <SH> whre r u mark?
Jan 24 13:44:20 <SH> im from malaysia
Jan 24 13:44:24 <mark_ostermann> here in germany it's still dark
Jan 24 13:44:27 <SH> red1's staff
Jan 24 13:44:29 <mark_ostermann> ;-)
Jan 24 13:44:32 <SH> oic
Jan 24 13:44:50 <SH> still dark
Jan 24 13:44:59 <SH> switch on the light
Jan 24 13:45:00 <SH> haha
Jan 24 13:45:01 <mark_ostermann> 6:45 local time
Jan 24 13:45:05 <mark_ostermann> :-)
Jan 24 13:45:08 <SH> ic
Jan 24 13:45:20 <SH> here 1.45pm
Jan 24 13:47:48 <mark_ostermann> @hengsin_ Hi Low. How's the Bug Day running?
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Jan 24 14:10:15 <red1> gutenmorgen.. mark_ostermann
Jan 24 14:10:26 <red1> hengsin_, is busy but alive
Jan 24 14:11:48 <mark_ostermann> guten morgen red1
Jan 24 14:11:52 <mark_ostermann> no prob
Jan 24 14:12:01 <mark_ostermann> busy is good ;-)
Jan 24 14:16:47 <mark_ostermann> bye. see you later again. im driving to office now.
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Jan 24 14:23:29 <red1> muthah, that link u gave was posted by carlos... and got deleted his post.. but i repeated it
Jan 24 14:23:59 <red1> ok everyone... anyone onto any bug? .. i am going thru the list
Jan 24 14:24:04 <muthah> hmm
Jan 24 14:24:10 <muthah> thats weird
Jan 24 14:24:25 <muthah> let me update my trunk
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Jan 24 15:01:54 <red1> SH, to test replication.. ensure that the data entry is at the 'raw' data entry server,
Jan 24 15:02:13 <red1> later ijam_d , racd can test the replication to the Saga_COA server
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Jan 24 15:51:27 <mark_o_> red1_ ayt?
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Jan 24 15:58:27 <goma> hello all
Jan 24 16:02:20 <tobi42> hi
Jan 24 16:02:40 <oscar> hi all
Jan 24 16:03:40 <mark_o_> hi tobi42
Jan 24 16:04:22 <mark_o_> hi goma, hi oscar. where do you come from?
Jan 24 16:04:50 <goma> hi mark_o_ im from phils
Jan 24 16:04:52 <red1_> hi mark_o_ ja
Jan 24 16:05:04 <goma> hello tobi42
Jan 24 16:05:06 <oscar> Hi mark_o, I'm from Germany, Moers (close to Duesseldorf)
Jan 24 16:05:12 <goma> hello red1_
Jan 24 16:05:37 <red1_> hi .. will login thru another more powerful PC :-)
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Jan 24 16:10:20 <red1> mark_o_, u back from nurumberg?
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Jan 24 16:10:56 <mark_o_> @red1 yepp, we came back yesterday in the early morning (02:00 h local time)
Jan 24 16:11:39 <red1> i heard yesterday (nwessel) that some researcher gave a paper saying that adempiere beats all the other ERPs.. do u guys got hold of the paper?
Jan 24 16:13:10 <mark_o_> yepp, that was really great. we are getting the papers from him when the conference is over and the guy is back to work at university
Jan 24 16:14:18 <mark_o_> he is researching os erp-systems and this guy is ordered by the german government
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Jan 24 16:14:45 * [mark_o_] (n=mark_o_@194.95.62.19): Mark Ostermann
Jan 24 16:14:45 * [mark_o_] #adempiere
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Jan 24 16:15:03 <red1> so u got his contact?
Jan 24 16:15:10 <mark_o_> yepp
Jan 24 16:15:15 <red1> he is our friend!
Jan 24 16:15:19 <mark_o_> :-)
Jan 24 16:15:42 <mark_o_> we are getting his criteria catalog with aprox. 160 criterias
Jan 24 16:15:51 <red1> anyone here who is good enough to be assigned bug tracker say so :-)
Jan 24 16:16:01 <mark_o_> the best thing is, that he is not looking at compiere ...
Jan 24 16:16:02 <red1> dont be shy...
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Jan 24 16:17:09 DeathMeat Der_Ali
Jan 24 16:17:29 <red1> hi Der_Ali .. as requested by mark_o_ i given u tracker admin assignee
Jan 24 16:17:42 <red1> thanks for your participation
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Jan 24 16:22:15 <Der_Ali> Hello red1, thanks for granting me admin assignee, I take this chance to greet you and the community for your efforts. I have just started drinking java, working at metas.de and I am interested in Adempiere and its model, hopefully I would be of a help (tesyting , developing, new features)
Jan 24 16:22:23 <red1> y isnt he looking at compiere? or u mean he doesnt see compiere as fitting his criteria?
Jan 24 16:23:06 <red1> u re very welcome as part of the Metas team
Jan 24 16:23:32 <red1> if anyone has tracker access issues tell me
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Jan 24 16:24:46 <red1> i m looking closer at priority 9 - [ 1876965 ] Wrong serial management on purchase process
Jan 24 16:25:07 <red1> this is good.. cos if we can make it give serialised indv lines for receipts
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Jan 24 16:29:04 <red1> jab_doa did this before..
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Jan 24 16:33:22 <bojana> hi all
Jan 24 16:33:37 <bojana> i would like to join you on bug day
Jan 24 16:34:11 * karsten-thiemann (n=chatzill@62.91.19.200) has joined #adempiere
Jan 24 16:34:20 <karsten-thiemann> morning all :)
Jan 24 16:34:33 <tobi42> morning
Jan 24 16:36:01 tobi42 tony_tspc
Jan 24 16:36:04 <red1> guten morgen karsten-thiemann tobi42
Jan 24 16:36:23 <tobi42> :-)
Jan 24 16:36:23 <red1> hi bojana
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Jan 24 16:36:51 <karsten-thiemann> hi red1, we had an interesting discussion with the open bravo ceo yesterday
Jan 24 16:37:04 <karsten-thiemann> he's a very nice person
Jan 24 16:37:14 <red1> really? so what he said of it?
Jan 24 16:37:29 <red1> so unlike our ceo here ;)
Jan 24 16:37:54 <red1> hi bojana, wer from? how can i help u ?
Jan 24 16:38:10 <karsten-thiemann> we discussed problems of the german localization
Jan 24 16:38:39 <karsten-thiemann> and in which parts we may help each other
Jan 24 16:38:51 <mark_o_> hi bojana
Jan 24 16:39:28 <tobi42> one newbie question: if I look at the bug tracker, what is the meaning of a fat "Open Date" value vs. a non-fat value? E.g. Bug 1854603 ha a fat printed date, while 1865753 is not
Jan 24 16:39:36 <tobi42> is it just the year
Jan 24 16:40:14 <tobi42> ?
Jan 24 16:41:03 <mark_o_> karsten-thiemann hi karsten. back from nuremberg already?
Jan 24 16:42:14 <bojana> i am from slovenia...
Jan 24 16:42:50 <karsten-thiemann> no - I'm listening to a keynote from the Deutsche Post
Jan 24 16:42:51 <red1> tobi42, let me see
Jan 24 16:43:35 <red1> bold date means its past some deadline
Jan 24 16:43:46 <red1> bojana, what do u like to do?
Jan 24 16:44:55 <red1> we shuld set the Sort By = Priority .. then we get to see all the '9's
Jan 24 16:45:08 <red1> highest priority needing our attention
Jan 24 16:45:18 <bojana> we are using adempiere for almost 2 year
Jan 24 16:45:30 <bojana> and we like to join this bug day
Jan 24 16:45:44 <red1> do u like to have dev bug admin access?
Jan 24 16:45:56 <red1> i m giving out that (minus the SVN commit rights)
Jan 24 16:46:16 <red1> just tell me your handler name in sourceforge
Jan 24 16:46:44 <red1> karsten-thiemann, i m listening to free dl music.. now at rod stewart's i dont wana talk about it
Jan 24 16:47:14 <bojana> red: are you asking me for dev bug access?
Jan 24 16:48:19 <red1> bojana, asking if u want it
Jan 24 16:48:34 <bojana> yes i want
Jan 24 16:48:34 <red1> assignee admin
Jan 24 16:48:46 <bojana> my user name in source forge is bojana
Jan 24 16:48:46 <red1> so that u can assign a bug to yourself and solve it and it gets recorded
Jan 24 16:49:18 <red1> u can submit any jaav diff patch to the attachments in that tracker
Jan 24 16:49:27 <oscar> hi red1
Jan 24 16:49:36 <red1> hi oscar
Jan 24 16:49:47 <bojana> it wil be great if you give me the access
Jan 24 16:49:52 <oscar> I decided in december last yer to concentrate on opensource ERP systems
Jan 24 16:50:22 <oscar> at least i have choosen to use adempiere
Jan 24 16:50:26 <red1> bojana u re in.. try it
Jan 24 16:50:51 <red1> for a start i am authorised to give only bug tracker assignee access
Jan 24 16:50:55 <red1> not SVN yet
Jan 24 16:51:02 <red1> that is Hengsin and Carlos rite
Jan 24 16:51:13 <red1> from there it shuld be easy
Jan 24 16:51:24 <oscar> during the last two weeks i have installed adempiere on opensuse 10.3 x86_64
Jan 24 16:51:34 <red1> so can u debug adempiere oscar?
Jan 24 16:51:54 <oscar> now I'm in the process to get a better understanding of special german needs
Jan 24 16:52:22 <oscar> I'have just started to integrate adempiere in eclipse
Jan 24 16:52:33 <oscar> to get it compiled and build
Jan 24 16:53:25 <red1> so u re from deustchland too?
Jan 24 16:53:38 <oscar> yes
Jan 24 16:54:31 <karsten-thiemann> hi oscar
Jan 24 16:54:43 <oscar> hi karsten-thiemann:
Jan 24 16:55:12 <karsten-thiemann> we have a list in the wiki with some tasks we need to complete to use adempiere in germany without problems
Jan 24 16:55:48 <karsten-thiemann> http://www.adempiere.com/wiki/index.php/ADempiere_Treffen_zur_Deutschen_Lokalisierung
Jan 24 16:56:18 <karsten-thiemann> and here http://www.adempiere.com/wiki/index.php/Deutsches_Lokalisierungsprojekt
Jan 24 16:56:59 <bojana> thank you red1
Jan 24 16:58:05 <bojana> so now i can only submit only bug or i can sumbit the patces to?
Jan 24 16:58:56 <mark_o_> @bojana you are able to put your patch into the bug-tracker as solution
Jan 24 16:59:09 <Genied> Hi all
Jan 24 16:59:14 <tobi42> Hi
Jan 24 16:59:14 <mark_o_> these pathes are the reviewed before the get into trunk
Jan 24 16:59:23 <bojana> ok..great
Jan 24 16:59:40 <bojana> i would like to ask you something
Jan 24 16:59:46 <red1> sure
Jan 24 16:59:52 <oscar> karsten-thiemann: neben den fachlichen Themen (Datev, SKR04, ...) bin ich an der Arbeit zum Administrationshandbuch und dem German Language Pack interessiert
Jan 24 17:00:01 <bojana> we upgrated AD from 3.2.0 to 331b
Jan 24 17:00:40 <oscar> karsten-thiemann: sorry, besides the business aspects, I'm interested in the German language pack and adminsitration handbook work
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Jan 24 17:00:51 <Genied> Question: are we going to discuss just the bugs subject of triage or anything else ?
Jan 24 17:00:58 <mark_o_> hi genied, where are you from?
Jan 24 17:01:05 <Genied> Italy
Jan 24 17:01:21 <karsten-thiemann> oscar: ist schon ok - ich bin aus berlin... Wegen Dokumentation und Übersetzung sind die Jungs von metas.de die richtigen Ansprechpartner
Jan 24 17:01:34 <mark_o_> @genied we are fixing open bugs in adempiere
Jan 24 17:01:45 <oscar> for the installation on opensuse 10.3 on X86-64 architecture, I found about 7 documents, given some detail to get 331b to work
Jan 24 17:01:46 <mark_o_> if they are not triaged yet, the triage them befor
Jan 24 17:01:58 <karsten-thiemann> mark_o_: may I introduce you to oscar :)
Jan 24 17:02:06 <Genied> ok, thanks mark
Jan 24 17:02:17 <mark_o_> but i believe that joel has triaged alot of bugs in a nightshift yesterday
Jan 24 17:02:27 <mark_o_> yes, sure
Jan 24 17:02:44 <mark_o_> he's from moers, near dusseldorf
Jan 24 17:03:07 <oscar> that's not so far from bonn (ST.Augustin), isn't it ?
Jan 24 17:03:25 <oscar> 70 miles ot so - :-)
Jan 24 17:03:37 <red1> i read triage.. what is its use here? i m not that sure myself
Jan 24 17:03:52 <karsten-thiemann> so welcome to the german adempiere community oscar!
Jan 24 17:03:54 <red1> i tot we only think about bugs :-P
Jan 24 17:04:11 <karsten-thiemann> and of course to this great bazaar :)
Jan 24 17:04:31 <karsten-thiemann> hey red1 - calm down :P
Jan 24 17:04:42 <bojana> on 331b happened to us that we loose all column from Application dictionary
Jan 24 17:04:51 <bojana> does anyone have the same problem
Jan 24 17:05:08 <mark_o_> @oscar yes, not far
Jan 24 17:05:27 <red1> that u can ask karsten-thiemann , bojana.. he is the migration man here
Jan 24 17:05:51 <red1> i have it ok with 331b and now 331t
Jan 24 17:05:52 <karsten-thiemann> bojana: in a running application?
Jan 24 17:05:59 <red1> latest beanshell changes updated to DB
Jan 24 17:06:01 <karsten-thiemann> or in the migration process?
Jan 24 17:06:21 <bojana> running application
Jan 24 17:06:33 <karsten-thiemann> thats scary
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Jan 24 17:07:06 <karsten-thiemann> it's not easy to remove all ad_columns
Jan 24 17:07:20 <bojana> i do not know how it happened
Jan 24 17:07:32 <bojana> we are using version 332 for one year
Jan 24 17:07:33 <karsten-thiemann> because of db constraints (if I remember this right)
Jan 24 17:07:45 <bojana> and this has never happened
Jan 24 17:08:13 <oscar> red1: to come back to yout ""debug" question - yes I'm able to do this. But first I have to get a better understanding of the architecture and infrastructure
Jan 24 17:08:18 <karsten-thiemann> but the table was still there? so no drop table ad_column?
Jan 24 17:08:42 <bojana> the table was ok
Jan 24 17:08:50 <mark_o_> @oscar: feel free to put yor name under one of the working packages listed in http://www.adempiere.com/wiki/index.php/ADempiere_Treffen_zur_Deutschen_Lokalisierung#Arbeitspakete_und_Verantwortlichkeiten if you are interested in helping
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Jan 24 17:08:53 <bojana> the table in batabase has column
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Jan 24 17:09:32 <bojana> only when i look into Appl.Dict there was no column
Jan 24 17:09:44 <karsten-thiemann> but you are talking about the ad_column table - right?
Jan 24 17:10:09 <karsten-thiemann> ah - ok thats different from what I thought
Jan 24 17:10:38 <bojana> i am talking about all column in table and column in application dictionary
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Jan 24 17:12:32 <karsten-thiemann> just to make sure that I understand you - you did a new table (my_table) in db with columns and you had this table shown in the ad - but one day the ad did no longer show you the columns of the table
Jan 24 17:12:36 <croo> moring all!
Jan 24 17:12:41 <karsten-thiemann> hi colin
Jan 24 17:12:48 <croo> sorry I'm late
Jan 24 17:12:50 <croo> :)
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Jan 24 17:13:21 <pelgrim> good morning (afternoon, evening) too you all
Jan 24 17:13:22 <croo> pelgrim!!!!
Jan 24 17:13:29 <pelgrim> indeed, pelgrim is back
Jan 24 17:13:38 <croo> good to see you ... long time!
Jan 24 17:13:45 <pelgrim> yup, been busy
Jan 24 17:13:53 <croo> good
Jan 24 17:14:03 <pelgrim> had some other assignments till I could get back to adempiere
Jan 24 17:14:14 <croo> :) so you are back now?
Jan 24 17:14:23 <pelgrim> and now I have to do a lot of adempiere conditioning to myself lol
Jan 24 17:14:28 <croo> lol
Jan 24 17:14:32 <nwessel> good morning folks
Jan 24 17:14:54 <croo> so i'm just arrived too ... have I missed anything ... do we haev a plan or is it just choose a bug?
Jan 24 17:15:06 <pelgrim> well croo, my first adempiere implementation is comming soon, and I still have to start learning to use it lol
Jan 24 17:15:09 <croo> hi norbert
Jan 24 17:15:10 <pelgrim> it's about time haha
Jan 24 17:15:15 <nwessel> hi colin
Jan 24 17:16:01 <bojana> no...the table for example c_invoice which already exist in AD, but then all column from this table has dissapere
Jan 24 17:16:02 <croo> well it's a good time to start implementing ... its really coming into its own quality wise
Jan 24 17:16:14 <croo> still prioblems obvious that's why we are here today :)
Jan 24 17:16:21 <red1> hola croo
Jan 24 17:16:26 <pelgrim> it better !! lol
Jan 24 17:16:41 <red1> pelgrim??!!!
Jan 24 17:16:43 <croo> hi red1
Jan 24 17:16:52 <pelgrim> red1??!!
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Jan 24 17:16:58 <red1> so as to give him the same instant surprise as last nite
Jan 24 17:17:03 <mark_o_> croo good morning colin
Jan 24 17:17:08 <red1> hi armenrz
Jan 24 17:17:14 <armenrz> hi all
Jan 24 17:17:18 <armenrz> hi red1
Jan 24 17:17:20 <croo> I was planning on joining asia for te bug day but then I did manage to reschedule my meeting today ... so decided to have a night of sleep instead :)
Jan 24 17:17:21 <pelgrim> hey dude, this is the breakfast show for me :)
Jan 24 17:17:25 <croo> hi mark
Jan 24 17:17:36 <croo> hi armen
Jan 24 17:17:44 <red1> i have to pretend that i truly appreciate prodigal peers
Jan 24 17:17:56 <armenrz> hi colin
Jan 24 17:17:58 <pelgrim> *pretend*
Jan 24 17:18:27 <red1> i m looking up priority 9 bugs
Jan 24 17:18:39 <red1> revisiting http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1782563&forum_id=611163
Jan 24 17:18:41 <croo> mark_o_, you are leading this right? do we just pick a bug we want to fix and start there or do you have something else in mind?
Jan 24 17:19:00 <red1> to solve this https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1876965&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 17:19:10 <croo> ok
Jan 24 17:19:19 <pelgrim> something else folks, I'm trying to run oracle10g in a unbuntu virtual machine, but that thing just eats up my pc ....
Jan 24 17:19:21 <armenrz> Red1 what have I been missing ? how do we get it work?
Jan 24 17:19:40 <mark_o_> @colin yepp. take a bug and fix it, when you want
Jan 24 17:19:42 <red1> i think we are just starting.. cos i been waiting for the world to keep waking up every time zone
Jan 24 17:19:52 <mark_o_> we would like to concentrate on prio 9 bugs
Jan 24 17:19:54 <croo> mark_o_ ... ok thx
Jan 24 17:19:59 <croo> ok got it
Jan 24 17:20:12 <pelgrim> I shut up :)
Jan 24 17:20:18 <mark_o_> in prepartation for next release
Jan 24 17:20:22 <Genied> We have a strange behaviour with the current (trunk) version: in tabs if we press AltGr+ò to insert a @ char the windows get closed, this doesn't happen with Forms.
Jan 24 17:20:59 <hengsin> Genied, what version of jdk you are using ? this is usually a swing bug.
Jan 24 17:22:00 <Genied> @hengsin, we try various 1.5 and 1.6 same results
Jan 24 17:22:37 <croo> Genied, you say in trunk .. is it in onlty in the last few days this appeared?
Jan 24 17:22:50 <trifon_> good morning mark
Jan 24 17:23:51 <Genied> I investiigated the problem, it happens with every altgr+ combination with keys that have 3 chars
Jan 24 17:24:22 trifon_ trifon-LogBot trifon__
Jan 24 17:24:23 <red1> guten morgen trifon
Jan 24 17:24:31 trifon_ trifon-LogBot trifon__
Jan 24 17:24:33 <red1> or trifon_
Jan 24 17:24:58 <Genied> it happened after version 3.20
Jan 24 17:25:06 <Genied> and is still there
Jan 24 17:26:24 <red1> armenrz, is the web ui problem still there? the windows come out in yours
Jan 24 17:26:25 <red1> ?
Jan 24 17:26:28 <croo> Genied, since 3.2 is it logged as a bug?
Jan 24 17:26:28 <trifon_> good morning Red1
Jan 24 17:26:53 <croo> I don't have a non-english kb so can't help test that :(
Jan 24 17:26:57 <croo> hi trifon
Jan 24 17:27:02 <trifon_> hi Colin
Jan 24 17:27:21 <trifon_> mark_o_ i can't send private messages sorry
Jan 24 17:27:22 <Genied> croo, I posted a question some time ago, I can't remeber where but got just generic answers
Jan 24 17:27:25 <armenrz> hi trifon
Jan 24 17:27:31 <trifon_> i can read them but can't sned
Jan 24 17:27:34 <trifon_> hi Armen
Jan 24 17:28:09 <armenrz> tirfon: how long will u be here ? I'll make couple fix and perhaps u can mentor/review it
Jan 24 17:28:26 <trifon_> i'm all day here, but i have to work on replication.
Jan 24 17:28:28 <armenrz> red1, not sure what u mean by web ui
Jan 24 17:28:41 <croo> Genied, a question in the forum is a good place to start but you shoudl log a bug .. and as Hengsin says it's important to give precise details of the jdk in cases like this ... which OS , which jdk (32bit/64bit etc)
Jan 24 17:29:01 <red1> armenrz, the one u reported yesterday which i told about
Jan 24 17:29:17 <red1> that it cant login into the alt web interface
Jan 24 17:29:38 <red1> i can but no windows in html.. only left menu panel
Jan 24 17:29:43 <armenrz> oic, it's not the web, but the app server. I can't test pass the jboss
Jan 24 17:29:45 <tobi42> trifon_ : we had this problem yesterday. to send private msg, enter /msg nickserv register <yournewpassword> <youremail>
Jan 24 17:30:36 <armenrz> no worry red1, i think it's just my computer's dns setting, I leave it for time being
Jan 24 17:30:52 <red1> ok
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Jan 24 17:31:51 <Genied> croo, you are right, I will post the bug with all details, it's a small one, but quite annoying because everytime you need to insert a @ the window get closed (but the current tab is saved)
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Jan 24 17:35:30 <bojana> karsten-thiemann i thing i cant send private msq
Jan 24 17:36:04 <karsten-thiemann> strange - are you registered?
Jan 24 17:36:06 <croo> bojana, you must sign in to send pm
Jan 24 17:36:11 <red1> web html ui still gives no window msg
Jan 24 17:36:11 <croo> type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
Jan 24 17:36:27 <red1> now testing in 2nd machine.. so this looks like a bug
Jan 24 17:37:58 * [bojana] (n=kvirc@89.212.65.33): Using KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
Jan 24 17:37:58 * [bojana] #adempiere
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Jan 24 17:38:50 <karsten-thiemann> bojana: simple way is /join #bojana_karsten
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Jan 24 17:39:39 <karsten-thiemann> not private but won't disturb this channel..
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Jan 24 17:57:11 <red1> could the html ui problem be due to WAN port?
Jan 24 17:58:07 <croo> red1, I am updating my app to trunk at the moment so can't test yet .. but what browser are you using?
Jan 24 17:58:25 <red1> IE :9
Jan 24 17:58:38 <red1> posting a bug to rob klein
Jan 24 18:00:09 <croo> ok, well two things I couldn't get the new UI to work in Firefox .. it needed the IE .. BUT also once I had the new one working I found both links web UI + alternative web UI both seem to go to the new web UI
Jan 24 18:01:25 <red1> Welcome, it is http://www.adempiere.com/wiki/index.php/Bug_Day_January_2008 TODAY! See https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1829443&forum_id=610548
Jan 24 18:01:46 <red1> new web ui?
Jan 24 18:01:51 <red1> from who? ajax?
Jan 24 18:01:56 <croo> posterita web ui
Jan 24 18:02:22 <croo> at least I thought that's what it was :)
Jan 24 18:03:09 <red1> can u see Adempiere Web Application Login (alternative) in your browser?
Jan 24 18:03:18 <red1> the posterita link seems ok
Jan 24 18:03:46 <red1> i posted here http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1878783&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 18:03:56 <croo> ok for me both linskk were to the same place .. but that was a few weeks ago .. maybe even before xmas
Jan 24 18:05:01 <red1> hmm how come i dont notice it
Jan 24 18:05:15 <red1> too many things since Xmas :)
Jan 24 18:05:57 <croo> just upating the db to trunk now .. as soon as I have I will look again
Jan 24 18:06:33 <red1> great to get confirmation from ireland
Jan 24 18:06:43 <croo> :)
Jan 24 18:09:14 <croo> red1, re: too many things since xmas .. tell me about it .. I still have about 500 messages to read in my mail box
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Jan 24 18:12:39 <pelgrim> sorry to ask a stupid question, but when is the next release data ?
Jan 24 18:13:03 <karsten-thiemann> hi pelgrim: when we fixed all no 9 bugs
Jan 24 18:13:20 <karsten-thiemann> so it depends..
Jan 24 18:13:24 <pelgrim> not one determined
Jan 24 18:13:39 <pelgrim> how ugly are those bugs ?
Jan 24 18:13:50 <red1> the present release data is in SF Files section
Jan 24 18:13:54 <red1> i uploaded yesterday
Jan 24 18:14:01 <croo> priroity 9 means data corruption so they are nasty
Jan 24 18:14:02 <red1> together with latest binary
Jan 24 18:14:11 <pelgrim> I'm too lazy (and too less time) :)
Jan 24 18:14:20 <pelgrim> aw, ok
Jan 24 18:14:23 <red1> or take the AVA
Jan 24 18:14:31 <pelgrim> we are talking about several weeks till release
Jan 24 18:14:37 <red1> thats too large about 466 mb
Jan 24 18:14:42 <red1> take the binary then
Jan 24 18:14:44 <croo> i think he emant release date red1, not the data
Jan 24 18:14:47 <karsten-thiemann> ok - thought you mean next stable release..
Jan 24 18:14:50 <red1> under Packages
Jan 24 18:14:53 <pelgrim> indeed, release data
Jan 24 18:14:56 <pelgrim> date
Jan 24 18:15:01 <pelgrim> shit, damn keyboard
Jan 24 18:15:06 <red1> blummer
Jan 24 18:15:15 <red1> my head is getting heavy from all this bug day
Jan 24 18:15:21 <red1> i making myself some chinese tea here
Jan 24 18:15:32 <red1> deciding against coffee
Jan 24 18:15:39 <pelgrim> what's wrong with malay tea ? :+p
Jan 24 18:15:45 <karsten-thiemann> pelgrim: we have nightly builds - so every day a new release but next stable release will be after the bug fixing
Jan 24 18:15:56 <red1> no sugar needed
Jan 24 18:16:05 <pelgrim> I will wait till next stable release to jump in
Jan 24 18:16:39 <red1> that wont be a wise pirate
Jan 24 18:16:41 <pelgrim> plenty of work to do before I get started
Jan 24 18:16:48 <red1> to wait the ship stock up
Jan 24 18:17:00 <pelgrim> time management red1 :)
Jan 24 18:17:04 <croo> well functionaly you probably won't se ethe difference between today and stable release .. so does no harm to start working with trunk
Jan 24 18:17:28 <red1> pelgrim, managed it well by been prepared now
Jan 24 18:17:29 <pelgrim> I make my current client happy and then I shall see
Jan 24 18:17:32 <croo> just don't actually implement ... which will typically take months so no worries there
Jan 24 18:17:39 <red1> more rum eh
Jan 24 18:19:28 <croo> I did a sync with svn this morning ... did a run_importadempiere to get a clean DB ... now when I apply the migration script 331b_trunk - 046) I get uniqe constraint errors
Jan 24 18:19:39 <pelgrim> I think first step will be a demo, but I can take an earlier release for that
Jan 24 18:19:44 <croo> have these scripts already been aplpied to the truink DB maybe?
Jan 24 18:20:56 <red1> i applied the scripts for yesterday one
Jan 24 18:22:45 <croo> you applied the scriptin in 331b-trunk without errors yesterday?
Jan 24 18:23:12 <red1> no errors
Jan 24 18:23:28 <red1> today there is 2 with the BeanShell sql from Carlos
Jan 24 18:23:32 <red1> 2 errors
Jan 24 18:23:38 <red1> but no bother its only beanshell stuff
Jan 24 18:23:51 <croo> no this is the very first script 046
Jan 24 18:24:00 <red1> i think i will settle for the receipts in serial number each line workaround bug
Jan 24 18:24:02 <croo> probably more but the first one give unique constraint
Jan 24 18:24:10 <croo> normally that means the script was run already
Jan 24 18:24:23 <red1> negative
Jan 24 18:24:29 <red1> very first script has no errors
Jan 24 18:24:33 <croo> butr I thought the trunk db was the db BEFORE the scripts in the version-trunk directory were run
Jan 24 18:24:36 <red1> let me try again
Jan 24 18:24:43 <red1> yes u re rite
Jan 24 18:24:52 <armenrz> I need a vote for this bug fix https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1868089&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 18:26:15 <red1> its a wf bug
Jan 24 18:27:25 <red1> croo i cannot apply the 046 script again cos it ran well before
Jan 24 18:27:29 <croo> is closed .. do you want us to test it armen? just reading it first time... if it AUTO approve why do you wish them to choose? doesn't auto mean they don't it's just automatic?
Jan 24 18:27:30 <red1> how many errors u got?
Jan 24 18:27:47 <croo> red1, all inserts
Jan 24 18:28:02 <croo> looks like they were applied to the starting db .. maybe??
Jan 24 18:28:39 <armenrz> it's still open in http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1742751&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 18:28:44 <red1> croo, do u get a column being added already exists in table?
Jan 24 18:29:25 <red1> i know they re all inserts.. will hit constraints too if already done before
Jan 24 18:29:32 <red1> try the 2nd SQL
Jan 24 18:29:45 <red1> 048
Jan 24 18:29:50 <armenrz> User choice is not working because when it compares user_id with
Jan 24 18:29:50 <armenrz> responsible's user_id, they're always the same value.
Jan 24 18:29:51 <croo> yes .. just checked a few at the records are there already
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Jan 24 18:31:29 <red1> croo .. u must have applied them
Jan 24 18:31:36 <red1> cos 331b doesnt has those
Jan 24 18:31:39 <croo> armenrz, yes I get that bit ok. it's just a first reaction so perhaps I haven't understood BUT my point is; isn't that the meaning of AUTO... they don't choose it's AUTOmatically approved
Jan 24 18:31:48 <red1> i confirm twiceon two machines
Jan 24 18:31:58 <croo> red1, I didn't I just did a run_importAdempiere and it seemed to run without errros
Jan 24 18:32:15 <red1> croo.. i did import adempiere too
Jan 24 18:32:22 <red1> and then i apply those scripts without errors
Jan 24 18:32:50 <red1> then i did an expdat.dmp and send to Files
Jan 24 18:32:54 <croo> red1, thx I will try again ... maybe there are two DBs or something
Jan 24 18:33:00 <armenrz> croo, yes if he's the Invoker, what I fix is at the else block
Jan 24 18:33:06 <red1> but if they re there then its ok
Jan 24 18:33:35 <croo> armenrz, I will look closer armen when I get a working db
Jan 24 18:33:43 <croo> I must just be misunderstandnig!
Jan 24 18:33:46 <croo> :)
Jan 24 18:33:54 <armenrz> no problem
Jan 24 18:34:16 <armenrz> thanks:-)
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Jan 24 18:38:55 <croo> red1, foud it ... had mistyped DB user in setup ... so my import was to a different user than my sqldeveloper which was applynig the scripts :)

Jan 24 18:44:20 <pelgrim> test
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Jan 24 18:44:31 <pelgrim> xchat is acting weird
Jan 24 18:44:59 <croo> i think maybe freenode has some problems!?
Jan 24 19:08:11 <fer_luck> Then go over to the Window, Tab & Field and look up for the Sales Order window
Jan 24 19:08:36 <fer_luck> add the Order field to the first tab, and make it a included tab with the Order Lines
Jan 24 19:08:47 <fer_luck> then try to look at the taxes of the sales order that previously had it..
Jan 24 19:09:09 <fer_luck> I don't know if it's local, but it just goes away.. unless you get back to the no included grid mode. :-)
Jan 24 19:10:12 <fer_luck> MCalderon: If you can test that I'd be thankful. :-)
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Jan 24 19:12:55 <MCalderon> fernando: what Bug # is this?
Jan 24 19:13:08 <MCalderon> to find it on the tracker
Jan 24 19:13:11 <red1> i got disc.. my daughter switched off the plug on the main pc while vacuuming
Jan 24 19:13:13 <fer_luck> It's not added to the bug stuff yet.. just found it 2 or 3 days ago
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Jan 24 19:14:47 <fer_luck> so, how will the bugday work?
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Jan 24 19:15:21 <MCalderon> we in America have one mentor: Carlos Ruiz
Jan 24 19:15:24 <fer_luck> croo: if that ain't our friend from the woods. :-) is it robin? :-P
Jan 24 19:15:37 <fer_luck> ok.. And Carlos will distribute the work?
Jan 24 19:15:49 <MCalderon> at least coordinate
Jan 24 19:16:03 <croo> fer_luck, hi fernando :) I am an archer actually! :)
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Jan 24 19:16:27 <fer_luck> croo: hehehe.. do you steal from the rich to give it to the poor?
Jan 24 19:16:35 <fer_luck> croo: how're you doing my friend?
Jan 24 19:16:51 <fer_luck> MCalderon: you want me to open a bug tracker for that then?
Jan 24 19:17:12 <croo> fer_luck, doing ok fernando thx .. and you?
Jan 24 19:17:12 <MCalderon> fer_luck: fernando: I think it is better
Jan 24 19:17:25 <fer_luck> croo: I'm doing fine too
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Jan 24 19:17:54 <MCalderon> to solve bugs that go from the highest in priority
Jan 24 19:17:58 <MCalderon> to the lowest
Jan 24 19:18:01 <fer_luck> ok then. :-D
Jan 24 19:18:13 <fer_luck> croo: and the internet connection? :-)
Jan 24 19:18:16 <MCalderon> I noted your bug
Jan 24 19:18:33 <MCalderon> saved and I will test it fernando, OK?
Jan 24 19:18:48 <armenrz> croo: I don't have problem with 046 script
Jan 24 19:19:12 <MCalderon> but now perhaps we should better concentrate on the 9 level-bugs
Jan 24 19:19:39 <croo> fer_luck, it's mroe stable these days .. but he ping is still about 400ms so it's not so good for VoIP and things like that but I typically get downlaod speeds from 30-100KB so that is a lot better than dial up
Jan 24 19:20:17 <MCalderon> in the Americas, it will start officially at 15:00 h GMT
Jan 24 19:20:21 <fer_luck> of course it is. :-) I still haven't given up on the idea to buy you an axe. :-)
Jan 24 19:20:26 <fer_luck> MCalderon: oh.. ok then..
Jan 24 19:20:32 <croo> armenrz, thx.. as I was saying to red1 I was setting up a clean env to test and when I did I made a typo in the db name
Jan 24 19:20:42 <croo> so the clean db install when into a different name
Jan 24 19:21:01 <red1> so whos stupid here?
Jan 24 19:21:04 <croo> but my sqldeveloper login was in the correct name ... :)
Jan 24 19:21:06 <red1> :->
Jan 24 19:21:19 <croo> so all is working for me now
Jan 24 19:21:28 <red1> i need my glasses.. eyes geting bad in the dark
Jan 24 19:22:44 <armenrz> why there's so many placeholder empty scripts ?
Jan 24 19:23:09 <MCalderon> because of 3.5.0
Jan 24 19:23:12 <croo> for libero but I don't knwo why either .. perhaps they are fixing against the current trunk
Jan 24 19:23:28 <fer_luck> croo: exactly
Jan 24 19:23:29 <fer_luck> :-D
Jan 24 19:23:36 <MCalderon> the 3.5.0 version needs them
Jan 24 19:23:46 <fer_luck> and when 3.5.0 comes out they'll just apply those placeholders
Jan 24 19:23:56 <fer_luck> anyone knows if today is victor's birthday?
Jan 24 19:23:57 <armenrz> oic
Jan 24 19:25:11 <MCalderon> so, who is going to coordinate the debugging?
Jan 24 19:25:23 <armenrz> congrats to victor, will be name the new release by his name ? :-)
Jan 24 19:25:43 <MCalderon> is somebody distributing them?
Jan 24 19:25:52 <MCalderon> is there a list?
Jan 24 19:26:50 <croo> release name, for his birthday .. :) bnice idea but last one was Victoria so it might confuse .. plUS he might like 3.5 to be after him?
Jan 24 19:27:16 <armenrz> (sw)
Jan 24 19:27:41 <MCalderon> armenrz: you wrote about costing errors
Jan 24 19:27:57 <MCalderon> is there a bug # for it?
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Jan 24 19:28:51 <armenrz> here: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1875625&group_id=176962&atid=879332
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Jan 24 19:29:25 <armenrz> is someone following how compiere 3.0 now handle the return trx ?
Jan 24 19:29:40 <MCalderon> wrong costing for vendor returns?
Jan 24 19:29:46 <armenrz> yes
Jan 24 19:31:24 <armenrz> I don't know if someone ever try on vendor return
Jan 24 19:31:50 <armenrz> but obviously the latest costing fix can't handle it
Jan 24 19:31:51 <MCalderon> armenrz: Susanne has solved it I think
Jan 24 19:32:04 <armenrz> in trunk ?
Jan 24 19:32:07 <fer_luck> mario, suzanne is related to you?
Jan 24 19:32:10 <MCalderon> she's coming in 1 1/2 hours
Jan 24 19:32:16 <armenrz> I can't see it
Jan 24 19:32:19 <MCalderon> she is my wife
Jan 24 19:32:43 <MCalderon> on our own trunk
Jan 24 19:32:49 <red1> ah...
Jan 24 19:32:53 <red1> 2nd time been asked
Jan 24 19:32:53 <armenrz> i mean you have to check if the receipt is a return trx in matching post
Jan 24 19:32:56 <red1> :-)
Jan 24 19:33:24 <armenrz> I'm interested as we also made a fix
Jan 24 19:33:31 <MCalderon> yes, it is a situation our customer usually has
Jan 24 19:33:58 <MCalderon> if you want we can leave it till she arrives?
Jan 24 19:33:59 <armenrz> to our country average cost is most important because we cannot use Standard cost
Jan 24 19:34:10 <MCalderon> the same as we here
Jan 24 19:34:17 <croo> Vendor return shold use the cost when the goods were received really not current cost!?
Jan 24 19:34:24 <red1> armenrz, u got the app server up?
Jan 24 19:34:28 <red1> croo, how bout u?
Jan 24 19:34:39 <croo> yeah I have the app server runnig
Jan 24 19:34:47 <armenrz> no red1, I haven't had a chance
Jan 24 19:35:07 <croo> I get the web ui/window problem for both
Jan 24 19:35:19 <red1> u got?
Jan 24 19:35:21 <red1> how come croo?
Jan 24 19:35:25 <armenrz> the matching post is wrong, it should be treated as negative
Jan 24 19:35:31 <red1> u can open an SO in web?
Jan 24 19:35:38 <MCalderon> fer_luck: fernando meanwhile I am trying to reproduce your bug
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Jan 24 19:35:58 <red1> hola AFalcone
Jan 24 19:36:01 <croo> don't know :) just know that I do ... thought it might be caching the but cleared cache and still get for both
Jan 24 19:36:03 <fer_luck> MCalderon: I guessed she was your wife, just didn't ask that directly. :-)
Jan 24 19:36:07 <AFalcone> Hi Red1!!!
Jan 24 19:36:16 <red1> haha!!! and ??
Jan 24 19:36:18 <fer_luck> AFalcone: Alejandro! Long time no see
Jan 24 19:36:20 <AFalcone> Hi all
Jan 24 19:36:25 <MCalderon> you guessed right fernando :)
Jan 24 19:36:26 <AFalcone> Hi Fer
Jan 24 19:36:31 <croo> AFalcone, hi Alejandro!
Jan 24 19:36:42 <red1> croo, not sure if u got it... u mean your HTML comes out ok all the way?>
Jan 24 19:36:44 <AFalcone> hey Colin, how are you?
Jan 24 19:36:49 <MCalderon> Hi Alejandro, greetings to Mar del Plata
Jan 24 19:37:01 <AFalcone> Hola Mario!
Jan 24 19:37:09 <MCalderon> hola Alejandro
Jan 24 19:37:36 <croo> AFalcone, good thx
Jan 24 19:39:13 <fer_luck> MCalderon: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1878834&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 19:39:23 <croo> red1, no matter which I choose I get an error - Window *Not found*, ID=0/nnn
Jan 24 19:40:23 <armenrz> i need to refresh myself, i'll come back later
Jan 24 19:40:50 <red1> ah then same as i stated
Jan 24 19:40:54 <red1> so that bug goes up
Jan 24 19:41:03 <red1> now thats serious
Jan 24 19:41:13 <red1> i will raise it to 9
Jan 24 19:41:18 <red1> should i croo?
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Jan 24 19:41:58 <fer_luck> London time is GMT, right people?
Jan 24 19:42:14 <fer_luck> wich bug red1?
Jan 24 19:42:14 <MCalderon> Greenwich actually
Jan 24 19:42:24 <fer_luck> that's what I meant. :-)
Jan 24 19:42:25 <red1> i got a chance to be in the news again
Jan 24 19:42:27 <red1> but i need help
Jan 24 19:42:28 <fer_luck> Greenwich Mean Time
Jan 24 19:42:31 <red1> its about hacking
Jan 24 19:42:34 <croo> fer_luck, in our winter yes .. but not in the summer
Jan 24 19:42:35 <MCalderon> yeah
Jan 24 19:42:37 <red1> how do we nab backers?
Jan 24 19:42:40 <red1> using what tools?
Jan 24 19:43:00 <croo> when I say our I mean us here in Europe
Jan 24 19:43:01 <red1> i m gonna give the McK type of answers
Jan 24 19:43:14 <croo> or northen hemishere actually :)
Jan 24 19:43:51 <fer_luck> croo: thanks. :-D
Jan 24 19:44:41 <MCalderon> fer_luck: i see you tracker
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Jan 24 19:52:35 <fer_luck> so now is gmt 11:52?
Jan 24 19:52:45 <croo> yes
Jan 24 19:52:48 <LordEros> gleetings all
Jan 24 19:53:01 <croo> and at the moment so is British Standard Time (BST)
Jan 24 19:53:23 <croo> but come spring when the DST moved the clocks 1 hour forward
Jan 24 19:53:32 <fer_luck> good.. :-) thanks colin!
Jan 24 19:53:36 <croo> then GMT would still be 11:52 but BST will be 12:52
Jan 24 19:53:39 <fer_luck> added a widget here with gmt time
Jan 24 19:54:04 <croo> I use foxclocks in firefox!
Jan 24 19:54:23 <fer_luck> that's nice also. :-)
Jan 24 19:54:36 <croo> yes it's very useful
Jan 24 19:54:43 <LordEros> foxclocks?
Jan 24 19:54:45 <LordEros> hmmm
Jan 24 19:54:50 <croo> then eth problem is tryuing to remember who is where :)
Jan 24 19:55:06 <fer_luck> haha.. that's true
Jan 24 19:55:07 <fer_luck> :-)
Jan 24 19:55:18 <croo> I was thinking maybe to setup new dummy cities with the names of the comunities
Jan 24 19:55:35 <croo> community members that is
Jan 24 19:55:41 <fer_luck> Good Idea... :-) I can do that with the clock on dashboard
Jan 24 19:55:52 <croo> :)
Jan 24 19:56:42 <muthah> hello LordEros
Jan 24 19:56:49 <muthah> long time not around
Jan 24 19:57:33 <LordEros> yep yep.. long time
Jan 24 19:57:37 <LordEros> got awfully busy with work
Jan 24 19:57:44 <LordEros> hows things with u
Jan 24 19:58:41 <croo> ah our man in Dubai... hi LordEros
Jan 24 19:58:53 <MCalderon> hi LordEros
Jan 24 19:59:01 <MCalderon> nomen est omen?
Jan 24 19:59:27 <LordEros> hmmm.. can we put that thru babelfish
Jan 24 19:59:49 <MCalderon> so you are in/from Dubai?
Jan 24 20:00:00 <LordEros> from...
Jan 24 20:00:05 <LordEros> u??
Jan 24 20:00:14 <MCalderon> El Salvador
Jan 24 20:00:16 <LordEros> oops.. in
Jan 24 20:00:20 <LordEros> not from
Jan 24 20:00:26 <LordEros> ah....
Jan 24 20:00:40 <LordEros> never been that far out.. though iv been to argentina/brazil
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Jan 24 20:10:39 <MCalderon> fer_luck: fernando, I see in the Tab "Order Tax" of the SO nothing
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Jan 24 20:11:01 <MCalderon> so I can reproduce the bug
Jan 24 20:11:38 <MCalderon> if I follow your steps
Jan 24 20:12:17 <MCalderon> unluckily, I do not know how to fix it
Jan 24 20:13:08 <MCalderon> so people, who is in charge of coordinating/distributing?
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Jan 24 20:17:01 <tobi42> i guess mark_o_ is (he's on the phone right now). but as I understood it, if you can't fix it, you could reasses the bug's priority and/or add what further information you gained to the traker
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Jan 24 20:17:18 <red1> sorry fer_luck i was away... the bug i refers... http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1878783&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 20:18:08 <red1> yes MCalderon its rather self initiative basis i reckon
Jan 24 20:18:48 <tobi42> worked on ([ 1854603 ] Prepare method is being called twice ) and submitted a comment and a patch. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1854603&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 20:19:21 <tobi42> can anyone pls review?
Jan 24 20:19:39 <red1> wow.. that fast?
Jan 24 20:20:34 <red1> if anyone is good at the java and wants to be in the dev list to get assignee rights just tell me..
Jan 24 20:21:00 <tobi42> well, I sort of lack the user knowledge to do reasonable testing, so I didn't change much...
Jan 24 20:21:56 <red1> quite well written.. looking at it
Jan 24 20:22:01 <tobi42> i tested and it works, but i don't know many usecases
Jan 24 20:22:32 <red1> any risk of impact?
Jan 24 20:22:38 <fer_luck> back
Jan 24 20:22:51 <red1> u didnt remove the spark plugs did u?
Jan 24 20:23:17 <tobi42> that's my problem, I don't think there is any,...
Jan 24 20:23:29 <tobi42> i don't understand "spark plugs"
Jan 24 20:23:53 <red1> haha just joking
Jan 24 20:23:59 <MCalderon> fer_luck: at last, I commented that I can reproduce it
Jan 24 20:24:30 <fer_luck> MCalderon: I've seen it.. Have no Idea of where to start to solve this bug, but I'll try to take a look on it later.. Included Grid is a very important functionality for me
Jan 24 20:24:58 <MCalderon> fer_luck: for us too. The users just want it.
Jan 24 20:25:25 <tobi42> @red!: i'm a bit nervous, first patch of mine....
Jan 24 20:25:38 <fer_luck> tobi42: congrats then! :-D
Jan 24 20:25:50 <mark_o_> tobi42, if you want i'll review your changes
Jan 24 20:26:10 <red1> pointing X_ classes to a different interface, may have to ask the PO guys
Jan 24 20:26:18 <fer_luck> red1: is it related to latest trunk?
Jan 24 20:26:37 <red1> yes fer_luck , both croo and me confirms the same bug
Jan 24 20:26:46 <fer_luck> hmmm... let me try
Jan 24 20:26:54 <red1> i just fiinish talking to posterita
Jan 24 20:27:06 <red1> they cant even give me a readme yet for their ajax
Jan 24 20:27:09 <fer_luck> red1: hey, what about posterita?
Jan 24 20:27:16 <red1> we just have to fix another triage on that
Jan 24 20:27:36 <fer_luck> haven't seen any trunk commits from them lately
Jan 24 20:27:43 <red1> they tot it was frozen
Jan 24 20:27:54 <croo> well the web ui is still prettymuch beta so in terms of the next release it's not really that important is it?
Jan 24 20:27:58 <red1> i told them that based on what news they got carlos can unfreeze it
Jan 24 20:28:02 <red1> they got to post it out
Jan 24 20:28:06 <red1> so i hope they do soon
Jan 24 20:28:13 <red1> but only for the posterita POS
Jan 24 20:28:15 <red1> not ajax
Jan 24 20:28:23 <red1> we have to take over from there
Jan 24 20:28:33 <red1> but i think victor has better ideas about GWT
Jan 24 20:28:41 <red1> which it seems Compiere is doing too
Jan 24 20:28:44 <red1> or has doe
Jan 24 20:28:45 <red1> done
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Jan 24 20:32:07 <red1> tobi42, DocAction separtion sounds nice... wonder if the naming can be more idiot proof
Jan 24 20:32:14 <MCalderon> tobi42: I am going to look after your patch
Jan 24 20:32:31 <red1> i m not a docaction expert.. i think MCalderon shuld know better.. after his recent marathon on the source
Jan 24 20:32:50 <red1> i m just thinking anything that touches X_ is handled by GenerateModel
Jan 24 20:33:13 <MCalderon> definetly
Jan 24 20:33:39 <red1> but not so.. cos its only extending X_
Jan 24 20:34:12 <red1> there is no change to X_class as i see it
Jan 24 20:37:05 <tobi42> \msg red1 i intend to wirte more javadoc once the idea has passed in general. of course more idiot proof naming would also be a good thing
Jan 24 20:37:37 <mark_o_> @all: we guys from metas are off for lunch for a short time. see you in a few minutes again
Jan 24 20:37:47 <tobi42> oops \ instead of /, i'm spoiled by microsoft ;-)
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Jan 24 20:38:49 <red1> ist a good case u made on the patch
Jan 24 20:38:56 <red1> go and have a bite now :-)
Jan 24 20:39:10 <red1> i m changing back pcs..
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Jan 24 20:39:26 <tobi42> cu soon
Jan 24 20:39:27 <MCalderon> guten appetit!
Jan 24 20:39:49 <mark_o_> thanx ;-)
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Jan 24 20:59:56 <MWeber> hi all!
Jan 24 21:00:09 <MCalderon> Hi Moritz
Jan 24 21:00:55 <MWeber> had no breakfast at all today (CET)...will be back in 15 Minutes to support
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Jan 24 21:10:59 <nwessel> MWeber: hi Moritz
Jan 24 21:11:16 <tobi42> MWeber: hi Moritz
Jan 24 21:11:20 <mark_o_> MWeber hi moritz, taking part in the American Bug Day?
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Jan 24 21:16:31 <SCalderon> hello everybody, i just connected to contribute
Jan 24 21:17:34 <SCalderon> I am beginning with [ 1878795 ] Invoice-Receipt over matched.
Jan 24 21:19:05 <fer_luck> back
Jan 24 21:19:06 <mark_o_> hi susanne. welcome to ADempiere Bug Day
Jan 24 21:22:10 <red1> i m still in 1876965 Wrong serial management on purchase process
Jan 24 21:24:23 <croo> is Armen still here?
Jan 24 21:25:50 <red1> his office closes i guess its nite here
Jan 24 21:25:55 <nwessel> hi MarcWeber
Jan 24 21:26:25 <nwessel> MarcWeber: are you new to the bazaar or did I miss your name?
Jan 24 21:26:31 <croo> hmm yes
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Jan 24 21:27:48 <red1> how did u summoned armenrz back croo?
Jan 24 21:28:40 <armenrz> what have I been missing ?:-d
Jan 24 21:28:43 <red1> i m homing in on the MInOut.completeIt().. but my eyes are weary...
Jan 24 21:28:57 <red1> wait for croo then armenrz he was asking for u
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Jan 24 21:32:52 <MarcWeber> nwessel: I'm totally new. Hi (@ll)
Jan 24 21:33:21 <rvergara> hi MarcWeber
Jan 24 21:33:30 <MarcWeber> red1: Hi to you as well :) Thank you for your greeting
Jan 24 21:33:38 <MWeber> i am back
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Jan 24 21:34:19 <MWeber> @mark_o&red1: Do i need a develpoer account to contrubute??
Jan 24 21:34:23 <MCalderon> armenrz: susanne is looking at the costing bugs
Jan 24 21:36:05 <armenrz> Hi mario, susanne
Jan 24 21:36:19 <MarcWeber> I'd like to evaluate wethere adempiere / bazaar is the right tool for managing my view bills and accounting stuff. I'm very new to business and adempiere/bazaar seems to be a good piece of software beeing worth learning.
Jan 24 21:36:25 <armenrz> I'll upload the file I fix so u can take a look, hang on
Jan 24 21:37:16 <MarcWeber> This community must be small then, right?
Jan 24 21:37:36 <armenrz> it's growing..
Jan 24 21:38:05 <SCalderon> hello armen, i reproduced the bug [ 1878795 ] Invoice-Receipt over matched. Now I will try your solution
Jan 24 21:38:17 <rvergara> MarcWeber: what type of business is yours?
Jan 24 21:38:18 <MarcWeber> Because you can use postgres (at least that's why trying it now instead of compiere) :)
Jan 24 21:38:54 <armenrz> 1878795 is fixed in Compiere 3.0
Jan 24 21:38:54 <MarcWeber> rvergara: Software and web developement. I'd like to specialize on haskell programming in the future.
Jan 24 21:39:11 <mark_o_> MWeber: moritz, you should have an account (mweber) already
Jan 24 21:39:21 <rvergara> adempiere is the right tool for you then
Jan 24 21:39:48 <rvergara> i use ADempiere to run my business
Jan 24 21:39:50 <MarcWeber> rvergara: But I'd also like to develop a new input device merging keyboard and mouse. (But I need to increase capital to start)
Jan 24 21:40:01 <rvergara> which is ADempiere and asterisk implementations
Jan 24 21:40:39 <rvergara> right
Jan 24 21:40:49 <SCalderon> armen, why are the qtys in invoice and receipt different, an error in editing the data?
Jan 24 21:41:08 <MarcWeber> rvergara: And what are you doing (additional to chatting :) ?
Jan 24 21:41:31 <rvergara> i am owner of my small consulting shop
Jan 24 21:41:56 <rvergara> and i am part of the ADempiere project from day 1
Jan 24 21:42:05 <rvergara> or day 0 I should say
Jan 24 21:42:21 <rvergara> because I used to be a Compiere partner prior to the forking
Jan 24 21:42:44 <MarcWeber> rvergara: So I hire you if I ran into big trouble :) And if I don't you've done a great job..
Jan 24 21:43:05 <armenrz> scalderon: for example you have PO for 1000 qty
Jan 24 21:43:16 <rvergara> i guess so ... :)
Jan 24 21:43:27 <MWeber> @mark_o:mweber is MarcWeber on SOurceForge
Jan 24 21:43:38 <armenrz> scalderon: u receipt partially 500
Jan 24 21:43:49 <MarcWeber> MWeber: No surely Not. I'm MarcWeber there as well
Jan 24 21:43:51 <MWeber> @mark_o:I am Moritz Weber
Jan 24 21:44:25 <MWeber> Marc Weber mweber Developer mweber at users.sourceforge.net Private
Jan 24 21:44:26 <SCalderon> ok, than the issue is to correct the matchqty to the received qty.
Jan 24 21:45:17 <MWeber> i ask red1 6 weeks ago do be added to the project...my id on SourceForge is mcweber
Jan 24 21:45:25 <armenrz> and vice versa I think when u create Receipt from Invoice
Jan 24 21:45:41 <SCalderon> ok
Jan 24 21:47:08 <armenrz> scalderon: have u seen my bug report on vendor return costing
Jan 24 21:47:44 <SCalderon> no, I will look now
Jan 24 21:49:08 <mark_o_> MWeber oh really?
Jan 24 21:49:23 <mark_o_> but yo are still MWeber, or not?
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Jan 24 21:49:31 <mark_o_> i mean in SF
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Jan 24 21:50:07 <MCalderon> the two webers confused me!
Jan 24 21:50:13 <mark_o_> ah, sorry. so we have two?
Jan 24 21:50:17 <SCalderon> armen, only the MatchPO has the bug, MatchInv is ok?
Jan 24 21:50:46 <SCalderon> crooney, hello, how are you?
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Jan 24 21:51:36 <nwessel> MarcWeber: so then welcome to the bazaar!
Jan 24 21:51:41 <armenrz> it's ok, but I have enhancements as well
Jan 24 21:52:07 <MWeber> @mark: i send you an email via sourceforge so you will see my account
Jan 24 21:52:08 <crooney> hi susanne
Jan 24 21:52:22 <crooney> was disconnected and didn't notice ... I was thinking it was very quiet! :)
Jan 24 21:52:36 <MWeber> my login name ist mcweber...my user name is "MWeber"
Jan 24 21:52:57 <MCalderon> Trying to look for another bug, I opened the Shipment (Customer) window and encountered an SQL exception. Can anybody reproduce it?
Jan 24 21:53:20 <MCalderon> Marc Weber: welcome to the Bazaar
Jan 24 21:53:22 <SCalderon> armenrz, we too did enhancements, maybe we can compare later
Jan 24 21:53:39 <armenrz> I'll upload the file in the tracker
Jan 24 21:54:35 <tobi42> MCalderon: I can't reproduce the exception
Jan 24 21:55:01 <tobi42> logged in as GardenwordAdmin, with adempiere latest trunk
Jan 24 21:55:12 <MCalderon> mmh, then it is my DB. Thx tobi42
Jan 24 21:56:18 <MWeber> @tobi: Hi Tobi. Nice to see you on IRC. Karsten told me yesterday that he does not know you, because you are never on IRC;-)
Jan 24 21:58:25 <tobi42> i'm definitely going to be only more frequently....we had one or two chats though...maybe i didn't shock him enough ;-)
Jan 24 21:58:37 <MWeber> lol
Jan 24 21:59:30 <crooney> armenrz, Armen I'm trying to understand this AutoApproval problem functionally before I test the code changes
Jan 24 21:59:36 <crooney> armenrz, the is the problem that
Jan 24 22:00:09 <crooney> armenrz, no matter what the user chooses ... if they are the same user as the resposnible user it is automatically approved?
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Jan 24 22:00:49 <crooney> so if the action is a choice, they can choose an approval = NO but it is regardelss approved... is that the issue?
Jan 24 22:01:23 <MWeber> @mark_o: Could you shortly call me 0n 02717402923 to solve this dev-account think...i can call out with this phone here..
Jan 24 22:01:32 <armenrz> croo: u see line 964 approval hierarchy
Jan 24 22:02:19 <armenrz> the problem lies in the else block (fixed approver)
Jan 24 22:02:47 <armenrz> line 983: autoApproval = resp.getAD_User_ID() == getAD_User_ID();
Jan 24 22:02:53 <crooney> yeah I see the code changes trying to figure out whats functionally wrong so I can test both and say it works :)
Jan 24 22:04:32 <armenrz> croo: try put the workflow responsible human or role (not invoker)
Jan 24 22:05:18 <armenrz> the problem is line 983 will always evaluate True because getAD_User_ID() is always the same value as resp.getAD_user_id()
Jan 24 22:05:19 <crooney> ok I'll change it witha new wf_resp .. but is "invoker" not human?
Jan 24 22:05:37 <red1> MWeber, i m back.. let me check if your id is in
Jan 24 22:05:47 <crooney> ah ok ... I will check that
Jan 24 22:06:11 <armenrz> SCalderon: I have put the file in tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1875625&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 22:06:28 <armenrz> Scalderon : please look for isReturnTrx
Jan 24 22:06:34 <MWeber> @red1: great
Jan 24 22:07:13 <red1> marc weber is in.. so i will make sure u can be assigned in bugs
Jan 24 22:07:15 <MWeber> @red1: my login id is "mcweber"
Jan 24 22:07:33 <MWeber> marc weber is another guy
Jan 24 22:07:42 <red1> who is he then?
Jan 24 22:07:47 <MWeber> i am moritz weber
Jan 24 22:07:56 <red1> oh ok
Jan 24 22:09:28 <muthah> a Weber by any other name is still a Wber
Jan 24 22:09:33 <muthah> a Weber by any other name is still a Weber
Jan 24 22:11:53 <red1> this weber is in bug tracker assignee
Jan 24 22:12:16 <MWeber> I change my sourceforge screenname to Moritz Weber
Jan 24 22:12:55 <red1> i will give crooney admin access so he can assign
Jan 24 22:13:10 <MWeber> Okay...i see Adempiere Bazaar now in the project list...thanks
Jan 24 22:13:48 <crooney> assign what?
Jan 24 22:13:55 <red1> crooney, u have admin powers.. so i may be hitting the sack
Jan 24 22:14:05 <crooney> oh ok
Jan 24 22:14:19 <red1> u can go to Admin, members.. and assign new members.. and at the bottom u can tick the trackers such as bugs
Jan 24 22:14:41 <crooney> if someone waitnig to be enabled for trackers?
Jan 24 22:15:02 <red1> i have done those who asked so far
Jan 24 22:15:12 <crooney> ok
Jan 24 22:16:04 <crooney> i will try and keep my eyes open for others :) I did leave mine & heng sins email address in the wiki for anybody needing access to contact us :)
Jan 24 22:16:12 <crooney> but I will watch here today
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Jan 24 22:30:59 <hwinke1> hi, just found adempiere and would say hello to all
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Jan 24 22:31:21 <rvergara> crooney: hi Colin
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Jan 24 22:31:55 <tobi42> hwinke1: hello back :-)
Jan 24 22:32:03 <MCalderon> hi hwinkel
Jan 24 22:32:06 <MWeber> @hwinkel:Hello hwinkel...nice to welcome you to the Bazaar
Jan 24 22:32:15 <crooney> hi Ramiro
Jan 24 22:32:33 <crooney> elcom hwinke1
Jan 24 22:32:40 <crooney> welcome even :)
Jan 24 22:32:51 <rvergara> have you had any adempiere implementations yet crooney ?
Jan 24 22:33:13 <crooney> no I stopped mine in End Nov :(
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Jan 24 22:33:36 <rvergara> may i ask why?
Jan 24 22:33:38 <crooney> looking for a new customer now
Jan 24 22:34:38 <crooney> well there are reasons and reasons ... mine was it was taking too long and I counn't spend any more time with them
Jan 24 22:34:43 <crooney> all was done except finance
Jan 24 22:34:51 <crooney> and they didn't wan to use it
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Jan 24 22:35:12 <crooney> they wanted something like MS Dynamics
Jan 24 22:35:18 <crooney> I guess that loks better on their CV??
Jan 24 22:35:59 <rvergara> a pity
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Jan 24 22:36:21 <crooney> yes I was very disappointed .. I had invested a huge amount of time into it
Jan 24 22:36:22 <rvergara> were they paying for your time?
Jan 24 22:36:32 <crooney> but I learned a lot about business as well as adempiere
Jan 24 22:37:12 <crooney> no after the implementation .. if they were paying I would right reports forever :) but it was a special one opff deal to try and get a reference in Ireland for Adempiere
Jan 24 22:37:46 <crooney> it's not completely dead ... maybe when they hear the MS dynamic price tag they will think again
Jan 24 22:38:38 <crooney> but you seem to be very busy with implementations!!! :)
Jan 24 22:39:27 <crooney> I think I choose too small a company - I only ever implemented for very large companies - and they always have plenty of peopel resources .
Jan 24 22:39:47 <crooney> in a small company everyone is working flat out to start with
Jan 24 22:39:53 <panji_alam> hi crooney
Jan 24 22:40:00 <panji_alam> hope u still remember me
Jan 24 22:40:02 <crooney> it was a very good (if somewhat expensive_ lesson
Jan 24 22:40:13 <crooney> hi panji_alam .. yes indedd
Jan 24 22:40:17 <rvergara> that is an expensive exercise
Jan 24 22:40:38 <crooney> rvergara, it was Ramiro .. very expensive
Jan 24 22:40:41 <rvergara> i always advise people of trying to implement an ERP in a small company
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Jan 24 22:40:48 <panji_alam> ok, crooney, r u interested to be freelance consultant at malaysia?
Jan 24 22:41:01 <AndyGraybeal> crooney, can you define "small" ?
Jan 24 22:41:11 <AndyGraybeal> how big was it really?
Jan 24 22:41:16 <crooney> panji_alam, can I do it from Ireland? :)
Jan 24 22:41:17 <AndyGraybeal> less than 100 people?
Jan 24 22:41:51 <crooney> AndyGraybeal, 10 people one office & warehouse, €6 turnover
Jan 24 22:42:03 <AndyGraybeal> what was that last part?
Jan 24 22:42:09 <crooney> finance
Jan 24 22:42:11 <panji_alam> crooney, of course
Jan 24 22:42:20 <AndyGraybeal> 10 peeps is small
Jan 24 22:42:36 <crooney> panji_alam, then yes. delighted to!
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Jan 24 22:42:41 <hwinke1> I'm looking around for ERP/CRM apps for quite long time now... Tested TinyERP last week, and failed due some missconception
Jan 24 22:43:05 <panji_alam> maybe sometimes u have to go to Malaysia, but we will pay ur transportation and accomodation fees
Jan 24 22:43:12 <crooney> AndyGraybeal, yes. my experience weas all in big multinationals around Europe. So I actually thought a small company would be easier
Jan 24 22:43:13 <crooney> but I was mistaken
Jan 24 22:43:15 <crooney> :)
Jan 24 22:43:18 <panji_alam> hope its ok for u
Jan 24 22:43:19 <hwinke1> adempiere seems to be adopted in germany... So I'll give it a testdrive
Jan 24 22:43:41 <crooney> hwinke1, yes it's very popular there
Jan 24 22:44:09 <crooney> I don't wish people here to think adempiere wasn't up to the task.. I see this as my failking not adempieres
Jan 24 22:44:40 <hwinke1> we are in the service Business, ISP, Subscriptions etc.... nnot many Manufacturing
Jan 24 22:45:39 <crooney> hwinke1, the thnig is adempiere is extremely flexible and very esy to enhance while still retaining the abulity to upgrade
Jan 24 22:45:48 <MWeber> @hwinkel: have you been in Nürnberg the last days??
Jan 24 22:46:20 <crooney> hwinke1, the one aspect that is missing for you out of the box - but under discussion
Jan 24 22:46:41 <crooney> is the automated monthly billing
Jan 24 22:46:57 <crooney> a big issue you might think
Jan 24 22:47:05 <crooney> but actually there are different ways of achieve it
Jan 24 22:47:49 <crooney> but we discussed in the forums a while back how to create this functionality as standard hiwle maintaining the functionalies that already existed
Jan 24 22:47:56 <crooney> hiwle=while
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Jan 24 22:50:50 <stefan__> tach
Jan 24 22:51:13 <crooney> hi stefan
Jan 24 22:51:42 <stefan__> servus crooney
Jan 24 22:51:47 <MCalderon> hallo stefan__: hat's geklappt?
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Jan 24 22:54:19 <stefan__> MCalderon noch nicht ganz ich bin an dem fenster wo man sich mit der datenbank verbindet muss erst mal sehen was ich da noch alles a
Jan 24 22:54:23 <stefan__> eintragen muss
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Jan 24 22:58:27 <hwinke1> Mweber, no, not in Nürnberg the last days.. was on travel in Frnakfurt and so on...
Jan 24 22:59:20 <MCalderon> stefan__: d.h. du bist im Adempiere
Jan 24 22:59:29 <MCalderon> na siehst du
Jan 24 22:59:40 <hwinke1> We checked Compiere, years ago... and I'm happy to see adiempiere now....
Jan 24 23:00:15 <hwinke1> Habe gerade die AVA installiert
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Jan 24 23:00:30 <CarlosRuiz> Hi everybody
Jan 24 23:00:39 <hwinke1> Sorry... Just installed the AVA.... looking for the client...
Jan 24 23:00:46 <crooney> hi Carlos
Jan 24 23:01:00 <rvergara> hi CarlosRuiz
Jan 24 23:01:27 <rvergara> carlos, did you notice that compiere finally did what we said it was going to do?
Jan 24 23:01:38 <CarlosRuiz> wow, this is crowdy today :-)
Jan 24 23:02:08 <CarlosRuiz> hiding sources?
Jan 24 23:02:08 <hwinke1> @croony .... Yes the automated billing would be good, but is not so imortand in the first place
Jan 24 23:02:11 <MWeber> hwinkel: There were quite a lot of OS-ERP-Project at a Conference called "Open Source meets Business"..the german ADempiere community also meet there, because of localisation issues..
Jan 24 23:02:25 <crooney> what did they do Ramiro?
Jan 24 23:02:44 <rvergara> they released a professional edition with aditional functionality
Jan 24 23:02:56 <CarlosRuiz> and incomplete sources
Jan 24 23:02:57 <hwinke1> we have a Billing system can feed in the actual data, the invoicing needs to processed in a batch manner then.....
Jan 24 23:03:02 <hwinke1> if possible
Jan 24 23:03:10 <rvergara> and incomplete sources
Jan 24 23:03:27 <crooney> rvergara, yeah? I thought the paid for only service packs was a big issue to
Jan 24 23:03:34 <rvergara> let me copy and paste JJ´s response to our statements when adempiere was forked
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Jan 24 23:04:50 <CarlosRuiz> does someone know how was the dynamic of the Bug Day in Asia and Europe?
Jan 24 23:04:59 <hwinke1> @MWeber, yes there are many ERP efforts... I havent seen so many you actually can use in Germany...
Jan 24 23:04:59 <rvergara> As for the third issue, Janke denied any plans to restrict functionality of Compiere in order to make a separate closed-source offering more attractive. I would also add that if a closed source offering made any use of Compiere's source code, it would by definition need to be an open source product. After our discussion, Janke wrote an even stronger rebuttal of this point:
Jan 24 23:05:01 <rvergara> There is certainly no plan to cripple the product or discontinue or "privatize" functionality - the very opposite is the case. We will continue to develop substantial new functionality Open Source, and hope to increase Open Source contributions from the community. It's disconcerting to see people spreading unsubstantiated false rumors in this regard.
Jan 24 23:05:07 <MCalderon> Ttobi42: have you read my paper about Java Classes in Adempier?
Jan 24 23:05:17 <vpj-cd> wow many ppl here :-)
Jan 24 23:05:23 <vpj-cd> hi everybody
Jan 24 23:05:26 <rvergara> hi vpj-cd
Jan 24 23:05:29 <CarlosRuiz> Hi Victor
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Jan 24 23:05:53 <crooney> rvergara, is that from the Matt Assay article?
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Jan 24 23:06:01 <crooney> Hi Victor
Jan 24 23:06:06 <rvergara> Frank Scavo
Jan 24 23:06:15 <rvergara> http://fscavo.blogspot.com/2006/10/compieres-open-source-erp-business.html
Jan 24 23:06:19 <CarlosRuiz> it will be good to write Frank Scavo about :-)
Jan 24 23:06:23 <mark_o_> vpj-cd hi victor
Jan 24 23:06:23 <crooney> vpj-cd, there is a rumour going around that today is your birthday!?
Jan 24 23:06:23 <vpj-cd> Hi Carlos,Ramiro Colin
Jan 24 23:06:24 <CarlosRuiz> JJ lied him
Jan 24 23:06:25 <rvergara> yes
Jan 24 23:06:45 <vpj-cd> jejeje yes Colin
Jan 24 23:06:48 <CarlosRuiz> happy bugday Victor - excuse me :-) Happy birthday
Jan 24 23:06:49 <mark_o_> CarlosRuiz hi carlos
Jan 24 23:06:52 <rvergara> what i will do is to ask Frank for an interview with Red when we release 3.4
Jan 24 23:06:54 <tobi42> MCalderon: I think I only browsed it so far
Jan 24 23:07:05 <rvergara> happy 33 Victor
Jan 24 23:07:15 <rvergara> Jesus age
Jan 24 23:07:15 <crooney> ah yes that was the article I was thinking of
Jan 24 23:07:18 <vpj-cd> Thank a lot everybody
Jan 24 23:07:25 <vpj-cd> yes 33 old year :-)
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Jan 24 23:07:29 <crooney> rvergara, good idea
Jan 24 23:07:41 <MCalderon> vpj-cd: felicidades!!
Jan 24 23:07:45 <katja> Hi all! Great work!! I am not a programmer, but I will work as a tester as much as I can. I have tested a bug about Matching PO and receipt and have some ideas how to solve it (like Open items) and I also have a programmer to work on it. About Atribut set instance, I think that the serial number, which apear in the PO after compliting Receipt,should not apear. If we look inProduct under transaction, all the serial numbers are OK.
Jan 24 23:07:52 <crooney> hey well a very happy birthday Victor!
Jan 24 23:08:05 <CarlosRuiz> Hi mark_o_
Jan 24 23:08:11 <mark_o_> happy birthday victor
Jan 24 23:08:17 <vpj-cd> thank a lot
Jan 24 23:08:40 <crooney> 33! well like Ramiro says we are really going ti be expecting even bigger miracles from you this year :)
Jan 24 23:09:04 <vpj-cd> thank a everybody by this great community
Jan 24 23:09:27 <katja> And offcourse, Happy birthday Victor
Jan 24 23:10:01 <vpj-cd> Thank katja
Jan 24 23:10:32 <vpj-cd> this year we have go with Adempiere until top :-)
Jan 24 23:10:39 <rvergara> as part of the reasons to ask for the interview will be the fast absortion of ADempiere world wide
Jan 24 23:10:56 <rvergara> so please answer the survey in the forum if you have not yet
Jan 24 23:11:16 <vpj-cd> Ramiro we need setuo some type the format to create business case
Jan 24 23:11:35 <vpj-cd> have you some draft ?
Jan 24 23:12:18 <stefan__> MCalderon wenn ich den befehl ./RUN_Adempiere.sh eingebe öffnet sich ein fenster mit Adempiere Anmeldung und wenn ich da auf Rechner gehe öffnet sich das fenster Adempiere Verbindung da muss ich noch herausfinden was ich da eintragen muss aber das sollte ja nicht das problem sein
Jan 24 23:12:20 <MCalderon> tobi42: there I found out that the DocumentEngine is used dually:
Jan 24 23:13:02 <MCalderon> stefan_jawohl. bist fast am Ziel. Schau dir die Wiki an
Jan 24 23:13:22 <rvergara> yes i do
Jan 24 23:13:31 <rvergara> i will send the template when reay victor
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Jan 24 23:13:49 <rvergara> reay=ready
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Jan 24 23:14:05 <vpj-cd> ok
Jan 24 23:14:16 <vpj-cd> the other I want say
Jan 24 23:14:37 <vpj-cd> e-Evolution sponsored to create new Web UI based inGWT
Jan 24 23:14:59 <MCalderon> tobi42: on the one side DocumentEngine executes DocAction mthods like prepareIt(), processIt(), completeIt() etc.
Jan 24 23:15:00 <vpj-cd> we contract 3 developers dedicate this project
Jan 24 23:15:11 <vpj-cd> to a year
Jan 24 23:15:29 <vpj-cd> I have are competitive vs Compiere and OB :-)
Jan 24 23:16:13 <MCalderon> vpj-cd: victor: you gave US a birthday present
Jan 24 23:16:27 <MCalderon> actually is always the other war around
Jan 24 23:16:36 <vpj-cd> Gracias Mario
Jan 24 23:16:50 <hengsin> hi victor
Jan 24 23:16:50 <vpj-cd> un saludo a todos en el Salvador
Jan 24 23:16:57 <vpj-cd> hi Low
Jan 24 23:17:33 <MCalderon> tobi42: on the other side it instatiates BO that execute prepare() complete() etc
Jan 24 23:18:16 <CarlosRuiz> Hi hengsin
Jan 24 23:18:40 <MCalderon> Hi Low, Carlos
Jan 24 23:18:48 <hengsin> hi Carlos
Jan 24 23:18:52 <CarlosRuiz> hengsin, mark_o_, how is the dynamics of the bug day? I must simply start working on bugs?
Jan 24 23:18:52 <CarlosRuiz> how are you marking who is working on what?
Jan 24 23:19:15 <MCalderon> tobi42: I have reproduced Carlos' error 1854603
Jan 24 23:19:16 <CarlosRuiz> and be available for doubts? what's expected from mentor :-) ?
Jan 24 23:19:36 <mark_o_> CarlosRuiz everbody takes a bug and assigns it to himself when wanted
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Jan 24 23:20:09 <mark_o_> or it is discussed before here in irc
Jan 24 23:21:21 <CarlosRuiz> ok, so I'm just going to choose a first bug for me, and be available for questions
Jan 24 23:21:44 <MCalderon> hi katja, welcome
Jan 24 23:21:49 <mark_o_> jepp. the rest has it's own dynamic today
Jan 24 23:21:50 <mark_o_> ;-)
Jan 24 23:22:42 <tobi42> MCalderon: can you tell me a line in DocumentEngine.java where another BO is initialised to do prepare() complete() etc?
Jan 24 23:23:12 <MCalderon> tobi42: yes. I'm goin to look and tell you
Jan 24 23:23:40 <SCalderon> vpj hello victor, happy birthday
Jan 24 23:24:02 <mark_o_> CarlosRuiz Carlos, it would be nice to know how we "clean up" after the bug day, because the most of the developers don't have commit rights. At the moment the patches are put as file in the bug tracke, but i didn't know if we should change the status. What dyt?
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Jan 24 23:24:27 <muthah> http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/
Jan 24 23:24:57 <CarlosRuiz> well, if you prefer as mentor we can check the patch and integrate it
Jan 24 23:25:22 <hengsin> mark, another approach to post that into the wiki
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Jan 24 23:25:56 <hwinke1> BTW: if alk about WebUI's there was a interesting infoQ Article: http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/01/gwt-frameworks
Jan 24 23:26:07 <mark_o_> post the patches or the bug-id?
Jan 24 23:26:16 <MCalderon> tobi 42: and yes: the prepare() method is called twice, calculating prices and taxes, saving etc twice. A waste of time. This is a real nuisance
Jan 24 23:26:34 <MCalderon> tobi42: I am looking right now
Jan 24 23:26:40 <hengsin> mark: the bug id with patches pending for review.
Jan 24 23:26:43 <vpj-cd> thank Susanee
Jan 24 23:27:54 <mark_o_> ok. at the moment if a bug is patched the file is put to the bug-tracker with a sentence "please review and put into trunk"
Jan 24 23:27:56 <tobi42> MCalderon: yes, I had this issue in my debugger for 3h just to figure out it is exactly as described by Carlos :)
Jan 24 23:27:57 <CarlosRuiz> :-) I need a mentor to show me how to run and debug the ajax webUI
Jan 24 23:29:22 <mark_o_> CarlosRuiz I would like to take the Bug 1705171. ok?
Jan 24 23:29:22 <rvergara> is the ajax web ui funnctional?
Jan 24 23:29:48 <crooney> CarlosRuiz, :) that is probably the one benefit of the old client server design of adempiere - it's easy to debug .. but debugging n-tier is notoriously difficult
Jan 24 23:30:01 <jsSolutions> mark, also, when the fix is attached, the Resolution field could be set to Remind
Jan 24 23:30:22 <CarlosRuiz> ok mark_o_ - about 1705171
Jan 24 23:30:38 <SCalderon> katja, hello, I have some problems with attributesetinstances. When I do a material receipt, I can only choose lots, which are in my current locator. But maybe I receive a lot lot in which exists already in another locator. I would like to choose beween all lots that exists in my company.
Jan 24 23:30:47 <mark_o_> jsSolutions Hi Joel
Jan 24 23:31:06 <mark_o_> ok, we'll set it to remind
Jan 24 23:31:22 <crooney> SCalderon, can you not create new ones? which is I guess what you nee to be doing at receipt!?
Jan 24 23:31:31 <CarlosRuiz> mark_o_: the question is if we want to allow the user to enter comments on invoices
Jan 24 23:31:32 <CarlosRuiz> IMHO it will be good to allow that - but I'm not sure if there is opposition from others
Jan 24 23:31:40 <CarlosRuiz> maybe somebody could see it as risky
Jan 24 23:32:18 <CarlosRuiz> :-) we could ask for a quick functional voting, now that we have most functional people here
Jan 24 23:32:22 <mark_o_> i think it is a good idea to allow sth like that
Jan 24 23:32:39 <mark_o_> customers of us demand it at the moment
Jan 24 23:32:50 <crooney> comments on invoices? yeah I think that should be allowed ...
Jan 24 23:32:53 <SCalderon> yes i can, but when I move from one lacator to the other i have two different lots with the same lot number and the same guarantee date
Jan 24 23:33:08 <CarlosRuiz> ok mark_o_ - let's implement it
Jan 24 23:33:18 <CarlosRuiz> Mark, do you want commit rights?
Jan 24 23:33:18 <mark_o_> ;-)
Jan 24 23:33:27 <mark_o_> that was a damn quick vote
Jan 24 23:33:33 <CarlosRuiz> hahahaha
Jan 24 23:33:35 <crooney> SCalderon, ah yes .. should be only those in the from locator ... yes
Jan 24 23:33:37 <CarlosRuiz> Colin rules in the functional
Jan 24 23:33:44 <hengsin> hi Joel
Jan 24 23:34:24 <crooney> :) i doubt it ... I thinmk if you look back you'll find lots of places I got it wrong :)
Jan 24 23:34:27 <mark_o_> hi carlos. commit rights would be nice. i could then do the reviewing of the bugs from our metas guys here
Jan 24 23:35:12 <CarlosRuiz> well, I suppose we can do another damn quick voting between committers asking for mark_o_ rights
Jan 24 23:35:40 <crooney> ok by me :)
Jan 24 23:35:51 <SCalderon> crooney,i have a client, who has allready three different lots of the same type with different quantities.
Jan 24 23:36:06 <hengsin> +1 from me :)
Jan 24 23:36:28 <CarlosRuiz> +1 from me too - what do you think? vpj-cd, tony_tspc, red1, xp_gone, fer_luck, AFalcone
Jan 24 23:36:33 <crooney> SCalderon, yes susanne you are correct - I was thinking serial number but actually the lot could be in many different places at once
Jan 24 23:37:26 <crooney> SCalderon, i think that is perhaps a flaw (I need to look closely again) but I susopect both Lots & Serial numbers are treated as unique
Jan 24 23:37:30 <MCalderon> tobi42: yes it is a weary job. As it is a little complex, could you read page 22 of my document, where I explain example MinOut.processIt() ?
Jan 24 23:37:57 <crooney> so but only serial numbers are
Jan 24 23:38:26 <SCalderon> crooney, i will look at the lot window, how it is configured
Jan 24 23:38:27 <CarlosRuiz> ready mark_o_ - you have commit permissions with +1 from colin, hengsin, carlos
Jan 24 23:38:28 <MCalderon> tobi42: there I explain what happens from the moment MinOut.processIt() is called
Jan 24 23:38:48 <vpj-cd> yes I cant not problem if exist a mentor :-)
Jan 24 23:39:38 <crooney> SCalderon, I thin kit's more the likely in the Attribute Set window
Jan 24 23:39:59 <mark_o_> crooney, hengsin, CarlosRuiz Thanx alot guys, it's an honor for me
Jan 24 23:40:01 <vpj-cd> Mario what is the issue with lot and serial
Jan 24 23:40:01 <vpj-cd> ?
Jan 24 23:40:14 <vpj-cd> or attributes
Jan 24 23:40:38 <CarlosRuiz> ok, I can be the Mark's mentor meanwhile - although maybe I'm not a good mentor :-) ask fer_luck
Jan 24 23:40:39 <tobi42> MCalderon: I'm on it
Jan 24 23:40:58 <MCalderon> toby42: OK
Jan 24 23:41:57 <armenrz> hi vpj-cd, can u take a look on 1875622 ?
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Jan 24 23:43:18 <mark_o_> Ok, then I believe i have 2 mentors. carlos and fernando
Jan 24 23:43:29 <crooney> Hey I see a new window I never notriced before ... Product Attribute Grid .. is that new?
Jan 24 23:43:43 <vpj-cd> armenrz have you complete link :-)
Jan 24 23:43:51 <armenrz> it's not
Jan 24 23:44:05 <armenrz> croo: it's not
Jan 24 23:44:21 <CarlosRuiz> no Mark, I mean I'm the mentor for fernando - but as mostly I'm not available on IRC maybe I'm not so good mentor
Jan 24 23:44:23 <SCalderon> vpj, hi victor, i have 2 locators, one to receive material, one to deliver. I move my material from the one to the other. when i receive material i can choose the lot only from the lots i have in this locator, but it may be, that this lot exists in locator 2. when i create a new lot and move it to locator 2 i have ther two different lots which are the same (same number and guarantee date)
Jan 24 23:44:41 <CarlosRuiz> but fernando contacts me via skype whenever he needs me
Jan 24 23:44:43 <armenrz> vp-cd: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1875622&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 23:44:46 <crooney> armenrz, ok .. guess I just never saw it then :)
Jan 24 23:45:18 <armenrz> i also don't know how to use it, it looks like incomplete?
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Jan 24 23:45:34 <crooney> yeah I've been at that all day armenrz... if victor can quickly reviwe that would be better :)
Jan 24 23:45:41 <crooney> I don't seem to making any progress with it
Jan 24 23:46:10 <mark_o_> ah, ok
Jan 24 23:46:20 <vpj-cd> thank a lot Armen
Jan 24 23:46:58 <armenrz> all we need is to treat the cost as negative for return trx
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Jan 24 23:47:21 <tobi42> MCalderon: so the MInOut creates a DoucumentEngine, puts itself into that engine and makes the engine process itself. like if you climb into a big gun and fire off yourself to the other side of town, right?
Jan 24 23:47:29 <armenrz> hengsin, take a look at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1851417&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 24 23:47:59 <vpj-cd> haa the issue it the cost is negate and should are only the qty Armen
Jan 24 23:48:45 <crooney> armenrz, sorry I was loking at the Wf tracker not the costing one
Jan 24 23:48:49 <MCalderon> tobi42: exactly. A nice approach. But somewhere it is fired twice.
Jan 24 23:49:20 <armenrz> croo it's ok, how do you progress ?
Jan 24 23:49:22 <red1> for mark_o_ commit rights? +1 vote
Jan 24 23:49:54 <mark_o_> CarlosRuiz Carlos, thanx alot for being my mentor. Although it will be hard to meet you in irc. If i want to ask you st i'll just announce a bug day again. and then you are in irc too. ;-)
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Jan 24 23:50:17 <mark_o_> red1 thanx
Jan 24 23:50:30 <MCalderon> tobi42: I am comparing my document with the log to see who is responsible for the sencond call
Jan 24 23:51:03 <CarlosRuiz> MCalderon, tobi42
Jan 24 23:51:09 <crooney> to be honest Armen I'm not sure :) I create a new human wf Responsible. modified the order completion to need approval and assigned the new wf responsible and it just comlpeted which I'm thinking is what the problem is .. so now I'm just running again with your changes to see what happens
Jan 24 23:51:10 <CarlosRuiz> about the prepareit called twice
Jan 24 23:51:11 <tobi42> MCalderon: ah, *now* I see. that should be the same reason like with MOrder
Jan 24 23:51:20 <hengsin> hi red1. how's your connection there ? slow here ...
Jan 24 23:51:28 <tobi42> MCalderon: i.e if (!m_justPrepared)
Jan 24 23:51:28 <tobi42> {
Jan 24 23:51:29 <tobi42> String status = prepareIt();
Jan 24 23:51:29 <tobi42> if (!DocAction.STATUS_InProgress.equals(status))
Jan 24 23:51:29 <tobi42> return status;
Jan 24 23:51:29 <tobi42> }
Jan 24 23:51:29 <MCalderon> CarlosRuiz: yes?
Jan 24 23:51:38 <red1> no wonder hengsin ... cant login into SF
Jan 24 23:51:45 <CarlosRuiz> yep, that was the lines I was looking for tobi
Jan 24 23:51:54 <CarlosRuiz> the m_justPrepared variable is not set
Jan 24 23:52:10 <CarlosRuiz> as the prepare is done in a different trx with a different object in the workflow
Jan 24 23:52:28 <CarlosRuiz> so, I think instead of looking the m_justPrepared variable we must look directly to the record
Jan 24 23:52:54 <CarlosRuiz> the prepareIt put the status = InProgress
Jan 24 23:53:06 <tobi42> why not remove these lines?
Jan 24 23:53:09 <vpj-cd> yes set inProcess
Jan 24 23:53:30 <CarlosRuiz> tobi, we must ensure that prepare is done before complete - in case somebody call completeIt directly
Jan 24 23:53:35 <vpj-cd> generally the status process is to reserve the qty onhand
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Jan 24 23:53:48 <MCalderon> we should not just remove
Jan 24 23:53:55 <hengsin> carlos, the problem could be the multiple thread, multiple trx issue I commented in another workflow related tracker. I'm not sure why JJ have done it that way, it looks unnecessary ...
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Jan 24 23:54:36 <tobi42> prepareIt() should executed before completeIt anyways, right? by the DocumentEngine that is
Jan 24 23:55:06 <vpj-cd> yes tobi42
Jan 24 23:55:12 <vpj-cd> if you have in the workflow
Jan 24 23:55:21 <CarlosRuiz> yep, always prepareIt before completeIt - but as some people can call directly completeIt from the extensions it's better to have the validation
Jan 24 23:55:26 <vpj-cd> the WF Engine execute this
Jan 24 23:56:48 <tobi42> are these direct calls to preparedIt neccessary? if not, we could eliminate them
Jan 24 23:56:57 <armenrz> vpj-cd: the qty is taken wrong from this line: docLine.setQty (Qty, getDocumentType().equals(DOCTYPE_MatShipment));
Jan 24 23:57:12 <tobi42> apart from the prepareIt()-call done by the engine
Jan 24 23:57:55 <CarlosRuiz> I think they're needed
Jan 24 23:58:39 <CarlosRuiz> look for example MOrder.java line 1892
Jan 24 23:58:42 <CarlosRuiz> // Manually Process Invoice
Jan 24 23:58:42 <CarlosRuiz> String status = invoice.completeIt();
Jan 24 23:58:57 <CarlosRuiz> if you drop the lines - then prepareIt won't be called
Jan 24 23:59:12 <vpj-cd> Armenrz but we should set or qty or mount I think is only the qty
Jan 24 23:59:22 <vpj-cd> -1 * 1000 = -1000
Jan 24 23:59:42 <vpj-cd> if we can -1 * -1000 = 1000
Jan 24 23:59:44 <hengsin> Carlos, the root of the problem could be in MWFProcess.startNext
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Jan 25 00:00:32 <vpj-cd> but the rigth is use MInOut.MOVEMENTTYPE_VendorReturns
Jan 25 00:00:38 <vpj-cd> to have control the reverse
Jan 25 00:00:38 <josephnexus> hello everyone
Jan 25 00:00:41 <vpj-cd> or return
Jan 25 00:00:47 <josephnexus> i'm just starting to get into customizing adempiere
Jan 25 00:00:50 <armenrz> vpj-cd: vendor return is DOCTYPE_MatShipment & IsSOTrx=N
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Jan 25 00:01:07 <vpj-cd> and MInOut.MOVEMENTTYPE_VendorReturns
Jan 25 00:01:14 <crooney> welcome josephnexus
Jan 25 00:01:21 <CarlosRuiz> yes hengsin, when WF calls prepareIt, it instantiate one object, and when call completeIt it instantiate a different object - so the m_justPrepared variable is not the same for the second object
Jan 25 00:01:27 <josephnexus> and i was wondering if there is a way to copy the whole request window and make it follow the same rules, but have a customized set up fields, and still be able to use the invoice requests process
Jan 25 00:01:28 <armenrz> vpj-cd: yes
Jan 25 00:01:37 <hengsin> the next node is always start in a new thread , a new transaction ...
Jan 25 00:01:38 <vpj-cd> so we need 3 condition DOCTYPE_MatShipment & IsSOTrx=N & MInOut.MOVEMENTTYPE_VendorReturns
Jan 25 00:02:08 <armenrz> vpj-cd: have u seen how Compiere 3.0 handle the return ?
Jan 25 00:02:25 <vpj-cd> nop
Jan 25 00:02:32 <armenrz> it has isReturnTrx() in the doctype
Jan 25 00:02:41 <hengsin> this looks unnecessary and poor use of limited database resources.
Jan 25 00:02:52 <tobi42> how about replacing String status = invoice.completeIt() in MOrder with DocumentEngine engine = new DocumentEngine (invoice, getDocStatus());
Jan 25 00:02:52 <tobi42> engine.processIt (processAction, getDocAction());
Jan 25 00:02:56 <armenrz> vpj-cd: meanwhile we can use Movementype
Jan 25 00:03:13 <vpj-cd> yes
Jan 25 00:03:29 <vpj-cd> what line is Doc_InOut?
Jan 25 00:03:33 <vpj-cd> I review now
Jan 25 00:03:45 <armenrz> vpj-cd: 87
Jan 25 00:04:25 <CarlosRuiz> hengsin - solution could be to reuse the trx and objects - making commit on completion of each node
Jan 25 00:04:28 <CarlosRuiz> ?
Jan 25 00:04:31 <armenrz> vpj-cd: I propose to have isReturnTrx() in MInOut, because we also need to evaluate this in MatchInv and MatchPO
Jan 25 00:06:04 <hengsin> yes, carlos - use the same trx and run it in the same thread. in a multi processor environment, your completeit can finish before the prepareit is done, it is unpredicatable.
Jan 25 00:06:35 <vpj-cd> armentrz
Jan 25 00:07:09 <vpj-cd> I think that solve in the line 349 the Doc_InOut
Jan 25 00:07:12 <vpj-cd> else if (getDocumentType().equals(DOCTYPE_MatShipment) && !isSOTrx())
Jan 25 00:08:15 <vpj-cd> and should else if (getDocumentType().equals(DOCTYPE_MatShipment) && !isSOTrx() && getMovementType().equals( MInOut.MOVEMENTTYPE_VendorReturns))
Jan 25 00:08:17 <armenrz> but the qty has already taken wrong by line 87
Jan 25 00:08:32 <hengsin> line 335 in MWFProcess, need to pass trxName to MWFActivity and line 336, done create new Thread but just call activity.run() instead. Finally in MWFActivity.run(), dont start new Trx if get_TrxName is not null
Jan 25 00:08:37 <CarlosRuiz> hengsin, the node complete is not started until the prepare node is finished
Jan 25 00:09:14 <vpj-cd> nop is rigth the qty alwayse have a absolute value
Jan 25 00:09:25 <vpj-cd> a return is entry in positive
Jan 25 00:09:41 <vpj-cd> the unique tha change it tho negative is the MInOut.MOVEMENTTYPE_VendorReturns
Jan 25 00:09:42 <hengsin> ok, Carlos, I could be wrong on that but I think the new Thread is not needed.
Jan 25 00:09:43 <armenrz> ok, I'll re-check that once more
Jan 25 00:10:08 <katja> SCalderon, I think that should go with material movements, but I will ckeck later today, how does it work with LOT number.
Jan 25 00:10:08 <vpj-cd> I path in call out
Jan 25 00:10:38 <vpj-cd> tha when you choose a doctype base return vendor set the movement type to MInOut.MOVEMENTTYPE_VendorReturns
Jan 25 00:10:45 <CarlosRuiz> without Thread the window will be locked - not the current 15 seconds wait?
Jan 25 00:10:52 <hengsin> tobi42: since you are testing this, maybe you can try out my suggestion ...
Jan 25 00:10:56 <vpj-cd> a return do not is entry in negative
Jan 25 00:11:00 <vpj-cd> should are in positive
Jan 25 00:11:07 <vpj-cd> as any document
Jan 25 00:11:16 <vpj-cd> the unique negative are the reversed
Jan 25 00:11:18 <CarlosRuiz> hmmm, and if we use the same trx in two threads it could raise locking conditions
Jan 25 00:11:18 <armenrz> vpj-cd: if u have vendor return for 10 qty, the line 87 negate it and become -10
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Jan 25 00:11:47 <CarlosRuiz> no, in fact in the same trx is safer
Jan 25 00:11:47 <vpj-cd> nop arment
Jan 25 00:11:55 <hengsin> jdbc trx usually doesn't works well across thread.
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Jan 25 00:11:58 <vpj-cd> it return 10 positive
Jan 25 00:12:14 <armenrz> so next in line 349, when u get the product cost, it becomes negative
Jan 25 00:12:14 <stefan__> MCalderon was muss ich denn bei Applikationsserver eintragen ?
Jan 25 00:12:41 <tobi42> hengsin: i'll try it, but still would prefer completeIt() to be dump and not not beeing called by anything by the documentengine
Jan 25 00:12:45 <armenrz> finally your post will be NotInvoicedReceipt -DR, Inventory -CR
Jan 25 00:13:04 <armenrz> it should be DR (positive), CR (positive)
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Jan 25 00:13:45 <vpj-cd> I see the issue
Jan 25 00:13:54 <vpj-cd> when you create a return vendor
Jan 25 00:13:59 <vpj-cd> the system set as way
Jan 25 00:14:00 <fer_luck> hi all.. back!!
Jan 25 00:14:06 <vpj-cd> as return vendor
Jan 25 00:14:07 <CarlosRuiz> hengsin, it seems hard to pass PO to activity
Jan 25 00:14:07 <fer_luck> vpj-cd: Happy birthday!
Jan 25 00:14:12 <fer_luck> or shoudl be happy bugday? :-P
Jan 25 00:14:21 <vpj-cd> but do not exist some place to evaluate this option
Jan 25 00:14:24 <fer_luck> CarlosRuiz: Howdy mentor!
Jan 25 00:14:24 <hengsin> tobi42: interface change break backward compatibility, something we should avoid for 3.4, maybe we can consider in 3.6 or 4.0 but not now.
Jan 25 00:14:27 <vpj-cd> else if (getDocumentType().equals(DOCTYPE_MatReceipt) && !isSOTrx()) is this
Jan 25 00:14:31 <vpj-cd> thank alot Fer
Jan 25 00:14:38 <vpj-cd> the rigth is
Jan 25 00:14:51 <CarlosRuiz> Hi fer_luck
Jan 25 00:14:52 <fer_luck> vpj-cd: I wish you just the best things.. :-)
Jan 25 00:14:58 <vpj-cd> else if (getDocumentType().equals(MInOut.MOVEMENTTYPE_VendorReturns) && !isSOTrx())
Jan 25 00:15:07 <vpj-cd> thank a lot fer
Jan 25 00:15:22 <fer_luck> Today is a pretty day here in irc.. Lots of nice people aroung...
Jan 25 00:15:29 <fer_luck> CarlosRuiz: +1 for mark_o_ .. :-D
Jan 25 00:15:29 <hengsin> hi fer_luck
Jan 25 00:15:31 <armenrz> vpj-cd: wow happy birthday!
Jan 25 00:15:31 <tobi42> hengsin: ok i see
Jan 25 00:15:44 <fer_luck> mark_o_: you just have to be on his skype list, then no problems. :-P
Jan 25 00:15:50 <fer_luck> hengsin: hail hengsin!!
Jan 25 00:15:58 <fer_luck> hengsin, want to ask you something
Jan 25 00:16:03 <josephnexus> hail hengsin!
Jan 25 00:16:05 <josephnexus> :-D
Jan 25 00:16:08 <MCalderon> stefan__: du musst die IP des Servers oder den hostnamen eintragen
Jan 25 00:16:13 <josephnexus> happy bug day
Jan 25 00:16:14 <fer_luck> in the last modifications you did to the wf_activity class...
Jan 25 00:16:20 <fer_luck> josephnexus: hey!
Jan 25 00:16:31 <josephnexus> fer_luck: what's up?
Jan 25 00:16:40 <fer_luck> since then I cannot see the output of running process sometimes.. I guess it must be something related to some thread.. don't know..
Jan 25 00:16:40 <MCalderon> josephnexus: Hello Joseph
Jan 25 00:16:45 <josephnexus> do you think you might have some time to help me w/ some adempiere customization that I'm doing?
Jan 25 00:16:48 <josephnexus> hello mcalderon
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Jan 25 00:17:08 <fer_luck> for example, I did a 2pack install a yesterday and had no output on console, altough my trace level was set to all..
Jan 25 00:17:15 <fer_luck> josephnexus: is the baby patching bugs also? :-D
Jan 25 00:17:23 <stefan__> MCalderon ich hatte 127.0.0.1 bzw localhost getestet aber das geht nicht
Jan 25 00:17:27 <fer_luck> josephnexus: what do you need joseph?
Jan 25 00:17:37 <MCalderon> stefan__: das wird nicht gehen
Jan 25 00:17:46 <vpj-cd> Armen I am test now
Jan 25 00:17:48 <josephnexus> baby is eating my grilled chease sandwhiches
Jan 25 00:17:52 <fer_luck> CarlosRuiz: Anything for me to do? I guess you're the one giving tasks for us
Jan 25 00:17:57 <MCalderon> stefan__: dir richtige IP
Jan 25 00:18:06 <fer_luck> karsten-thiemann: hail master!
Jan 25 00:18:41 <fer_luck> ralexsander: Ricardo! :-)
Jan 25 00:19:17 <stefan__> MCalderon wie die richtige IP ?
Jan 25 00:20:01 <MCalderon> 192.168.1.110 oder ähnliches bzw. mein-server (mit Eintrag in /etc/hosts)
Jan 25 00:20:14 <MCalderon> die du in deinem Rechner hast
Jan 25 00:21:12 <CarlosRuiz> fer_luck: no, we're not assigning, everybody get what they want - just got a bug and assign it to yourself
Jan 25 00:21:30 <fer_luck> hmmm.. ok.. is there a list of priorities?
Jan 25 00:21:54 <josephnexus> fer_luck, I'm wanting to add a new tab to my products
Jan 25 00:22:00 <josephnexus> so that involves making a new table
Jan 25 00:22:07 <josephnexus> adding columns to that table
Jan 25 00:22:12 <josephnexus> then creating the appropriate elements
Jan 25 00:22:15 <CarlosRuiz> fer_luck: I would prefer if we can work on priority 9-core bugs
Jan 25 00:22:16 <josephnexus> and then creating the tab
Jan 25 00:22:18 <josephnexus> in the window
Jan 25 00:22:28 <josephnexus> fer_luck, have you skype?
Jan 25 00:22:37 <fer_luck> josephnexus: yes I do. :-) fer_luck
Jan 25 00:23:08 <karsten-thiemann> hi fernando
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Jan 25 00:23:26 <josephnexus> te puedo llamar fernando?
Jan 25 00:23:37 <fer_luck> josephnexus: only problem is I'm in a slow connection right now..
Jan 25 00:23:40 <fer_luck> not at the office.. :-/
Jan 25 00:23:45 <josephnexus> arg!
Jan 25 00:23:57 <josephnexus> i don't want to flood the IRC w/ my questions on this most glorious of bug days
Jan 25 00:24:22 <mark_o_> fer_luck fernando, thanx for this advice. i'll remeber it. ;-)
Jan 25 00:24:22 <fer_luck> private chat me then. :-0
Jan 25 00:24:30 <rvergara> crooney: still there?
Jan 25 00:24:46 <crooney> yeah Ramiro still here
Jan 25 00:24:51 <crooney> what can I do for you?
Jan 25 00:24:52 <rvergara> http://fscavo.blogspot.com/2008/01/microsoft-dynamics-more-management.html
Jan 25 00:25:04 <rvergara> talking about MS Dynamics
Jan 25 00:25:07 <crooney> thx will read
Jan 25 00:25:15 <CarlosRuiz> tobi, I have an idea
Jan 25 00:26:00 <fer_luck> CarlosRuiz: the fixed bugs have to be commited to svn or will they be reviewed?
Jan 25 00:26:23 <CarlosRuiz> it depends, I suppose if you have commit permissions you can commit
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Jan 25 00:26:43 <fer_luck> hmmm. ok then..
Jan 25 00:26:44 <vpj-cd> armenrz you can complete a material receipt with last trunk
Jan 25 00:26:45 <vpj-cd> ?
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Jan 25 00:27:12 <armenrz> vpj-cd: I'll try
Jan 25 00:27:22 <fer_luck> vpj-cd: just did it yesterday
Jan 25 00:27:30 <vpj-cd> i have a probroblem
Jan 25 00:27:39 <vpj-cd> but do not complete
Jan 25 00:28:11 <tobi42> hengsin: I'm testing the change you spoke about. now aparently not all acticities are executed anymore
Jan 25 00:28:27 <crooney> rvergara, interesting. Here MS don't implement but use ISV that at one time would have had their own package. But for the future development the ISV don't really help!
Jan 25 00:28:44 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz: what's your idea?
Jan 25 00:28:45 <rvergara> exactly
Jan 25 00:28:58 <CarlosRuiz> hmmm. still thinking if this can be done ...
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Jan 25 00:29:04 <tobi42> hengsin: I guess, now only one path of transitione between activities is executed
Jan 25 00:29:34 <tobi42> however, this workflow has a fork in it
Jan 25 00:30:31 <CarlosRuiz> yep tobi, that's what I worry, the WF can manage split
Jan 25 00:30:35 <CarlosRuiz> in different threads
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Jan 25 00:31:31 <CarlosRuiz> it looks hard to share transaction between two threads
Jan 25 00:31:53 <CarlosRuiz> and the PO is associated with the Trx, so it looks hard also to share the PO
Jan 25 00:32:12 <stefan__> MCalderon test applikationsserver OK, test datenbankverbindung OK, b ei Adempiere Anmeldung sagt er mir dann aber nicht verbunden, wenn ich dann auf den grünen haken klicke kommt datenbank nicht gefunden
Jan 25 00:33:33 <mark_o_> CarlosRuiz, crooney: the bug comments on invoices (1705171). what do you think about already to be able to put comments in an order -> then on shipment -> then on invoice?
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Jan 25 00:33:47 <stefan__> MCalderon ausserdem wollte ich noch fragen ob das script das ich mit ./RUN_Server2.sh aufrufe endlos läuft oder iregndwann zu ende ist , bei mir steht er nämlich seit rund zwei stunden an der gleichen stelle
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Jan 25 00:33:59 <CarlosRuiz> yep, I think you can put comments in an order
Jan 25 00:34:17 <CarlosRuiz> I mean, you can't actually, but that must be a normal business need
Jan 25 00:34:20 <MCalderon> stefan__: das läuft endlos. Ist ja ein Server :-)
Jan 25 00:34:26 <vpj-cd> armnent can complete a material receip?t
Jan 25 00:34:44 <vpj-cd> somebody can complete a material receipt with last trunk?
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Jan 25 00:35:04 <MCalderon> stefan__: du musst auf die Stelle achten "started in xx minutes"
Jan 25 00:35:15 <crooney> yeah me too ... they can be removed if needed
Jan 25 00:35:24 <mark_o_> ok, so i'll look at this for order and shipment too and document it in the mentioned bug-tracker
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Jan 25 00:37:57 <armenrz_> testing
Jan 25 00:38:05 <stefan__> MCalderon da steht bei mir 15:37:02,318 INFO [Server] JBoss (MX MicroKernel) [4.0.2 (build: CVSTag=JBoss_4_0_2 date=200505022023)] Started in 2m:1s:61ms
Jan 25 00:38:24 <MCalderon> stefan__: das ist OK
Jan 25 00:38:49 <Der_Ali> May I interrup a little bit, I would like to give my humble diagnostics and suggestions regarding Bug 1701671 which need some feedback
Jan 25 00:39:15 <rvergara> AFalcone: hi alejandro, there?
Jan 25 00:39:30 <MCalderon> stefan_: ID=SuperUser Passwd=System (SIC)
Jan 25 00:40:28 <armenrz_> victor, r u there?
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Jan 25 00:40:36 <AFalcone> Hi, I'm back
Jan 25 00:40:51 <AFalcone> hi Ramiro ( rvergara )
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Jan 25 00:42:13 <rvergara> can you login in skype so we do not interrupt here?
Jan 25 00:42:36 <vpj-cd> yes
Jan 25 00:42:38 <vpj-cd> ia am here
Jan 25 00:42:50 <AFalcone> Yes Ramiro
Jan 25 00:42:51 <crooney> mark_o_, I'm just loking at this bug report (1705171) now - actually I thought you could always put comments on orders & invoices? is this specific to the view C_Invoice_LineTax_V? I just tested with this monrings truk and I have put comments lines with qty = 0 on orders & invoices ... so I gues I'm wondering when does the problem arise?
Jan 25 00:42:56 <AFalcone> 1 minute
Jan 25 00:43:06 <armenrz_> victor, I test it, seems it's ok,
Jan 25 00:43:35 <armenrz_> i think I have to review it. in GardenWorld, the Vendor Return doctype is set as Sales Trx
Jan 25 00:44:08 <mark_o_> the problem arises when you try to put comments with uom = 0
Jan 25 00:44:22 <armenrz_> vpj-cd: is it wrong ? what do you think ?
Jan 25 00:44:30 <vpj-cd> yes
Jan 25 00:44:37 <vpj-cd> can you complete
Jan 25 00:44:42 <vpj-cd> a receipt
Jan 25 00:44:44 <vpj-cd> ?
Jan 25 00:44:47 <armenrz_> i can
Jan 25 00:45:01 <vpj-cd> ok a wait
Jan 25 00:45:04 <fer_luck> Can I have bug [ 1878834 ] Bug in the Included Grid mode?
Jan 25 00:45:20 <AFalcone> hey Victor! Feliz Cumpleanos!!! Happy Birthday!
Jan 25 00:45:21 <vpj-cd> Fer Low made many changes
Jan 25 00:45:27 <vpj-cd> now is resolve
Jan 25 00:45:30 <vpj-cd> but exist ew bug
Jan 25 00:45:40 <vpj-cd> Gracias Alex
Jan 25 00:45:46 <fer_luck> vpj-cd: nope... I jutst included this bug report today
Jan 25 00:45:46 <fer_luck> :-)
Jan 25 00:45:49 <MCalderon> Carlos, Hengsin, tobi42: I will look for another bug. I leave you with 1854603
Jan 25 00:45:50 <mark_o_> crooney uom = null is not allowed in order
Jan 25 00:45:59 <mark_o_> cause of null constraint
Jan 25 00:46:04 <crooney> mark_o_, ok it insists on making it UOM=each ... but so long as qty = 0 it come sout as comments in the print
Jan 25 00:46:34 <CarlosRuiz> tobi42: I have an untested patch for 1854603 - can I send you and you test it?
Jan 25 00:46:50 <CarlosRuiz> I'm just trying to reuse the same PO in the next activity
Jan 25 00:47:08 <MCalderon> Carlos, send it to me, and I can test it, too
Jan 25 00:47:11 <AFalcone> someone is trying with [ 1871567 ] "Wrong value in Payment document" ?
Jan 25 00:47:29 <AFalcone> opened by Carlos
Jan 25 00:47:30 <mark_o_> crooney thanx, youre right
Jan 25 00:47:51 <hengsin> fer_luck: yes :)
Jan 25 00:47:52 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz sure
Jan 25 00:47:55 <Der_Ali> Bug 1701671: the payment selection (manual) checks against the c_payselection line, it will not display any invoice if it is already inserted in the mentioned table, however after reversing a payment it will still have its lines inserted there, which means it will not be displayed next time when "payment selection(manual)" is chosen for a business partner, I suggest changing this so that the check to be done against the payment and not the payment selec
Jan 25 00:47:56 <Der_Ali> the difference between the window payment selection and payment selection (manual)?
Jan 25 00:48:01 <mark_o_> so i'll just leave the uom in order
Jan 25 00:48:18 <fer_luck> hengsin: ok. :-)
Jan 25 00:48:37 <CarlosRuiz> AFalcone: you can just assign it to yourself
Jan 25 00:48:47 <CarlosRuiz> I have an idea about that if you want to discuss it
Jan 25 00:48:50 <crooney> mark_o_, yes if I set qty=0, enter a comment (in description field right?), set UOM =blank then it sets to UOM=-each
Jan 25 00:48:51 <crooney> mark_o_, ok so perhaps it's just this view that is wrong then?
Jan 25 00:49:04 <AFalcone> Ok Carlos, I'll do
Jan 25 00:49:21 <mark_o_> yepp, i'm looking at that
Jan 25 00:49:29 <armenrz_> vpj-cd : it looks correct, I'll continue test tomorrow, if it's not bug, I'll close the tracker
Jan 25 00:49:54 <vpj-cd> ok
Jan 25 00:49:57 <armenrz_> vpj-cd: thanks for ur help
Jan 25 00:50:02 <vpj-cd> no problem
Jan 25 00:50:07 <armenrz_> I gtg, i'm so weary
Jan 25 00:50:11 <vpj-cd> the tip is I move the callout
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Jan 25 00:50:24 <armenrz_> wish u all the best
Jan 25 00:50:38 <tobi42> Hengsin CarlosRuiz so short of forbidding calls to prepareIt() and the
Jan 25 00:50:38 <tobi42> like, it seems to me that we need to a) add another column to persist the value of m_justPrepared or b) add another docaction-state can be evaluated by completeIt()
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Jan 25 00:52:38 <tobi42> Hengsin CarlosRuiz like adding DocAction.STATUS_InProgress_Prepared or something, but this might also break other stuff...
Jan 25 00:57:05 <stefan__> MCalderon als nutzer trage ich dann system ein und als kennwort das betreffende passwort und nach dem test kommt der grüne haken wenn ich dann auf ok gehe und in der anmeldung den grünen haken klicke kommt datenbank nicht gefunden und er springt wieder auf die standard einstellungen zurück
Jan 25 00:58:44 <MCalderon> Stefan__: System (gross geschrieben)
Jan 25 00:59:16 <MCalderon> Stefan__: Als USer musst du SuperUrser eintragen
Jan 25 00:59:32 <MCalderon> stefan__: und als Passwd System
Jan 25 00:59:38 <MCalderon> nix anderes
Jan 25 01:00:08 <MCalderon> schau dir die Wiki an
Jan 25 01:00:48 <stefan__> MCalderon ich durchforste schon seit stunden die wiki seite
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Jan 25 01:02:56 <josephnexus> Genied left
Jan 25 01:02:59 <josephnexus> cuz of the Xtra
Jan 25 01:03:02 <josephnexus> yeah!
Jan 25 01:03:03 <josephnexus> lol
Jan 25 01:03:15 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz: how about the patch you wanted to send?
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Jan 25 01:03:34 <CarlosRuiz> :-( tobi, didn't work in my testings -
Jan 25 01:03:43 <MCalderon> stefan__: oops! das habe ich dort gesehen. Aber in der Doku die ich dir gesendet habe, ist das Anmeldefenster beschieben (am Ende)
Jan 25 01:03:45 <CarlosRuiz> struggling a little trying to send you at least some working
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Jan 25 01:13:47 <vpj-cd> Hi CarlosRuiz
Jan 25 01:14:01 <vpj-cd> I have work the callout with grooby
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Jan 25 01:14:09 <vpj-cd> groovy
Jan 25 01:14:30 <vpj-cd> I but made some change your original code
Jan 25 01:14:45 <vpj-cd> I need add a new cololumn
Jan 25 01:14:49 <vpj-cd> you are here?
Jan 25 01:14:55 <CarlosRuiz> ready tobi, finally it worked
Jan 25 01:15:10 <crooney> vpj-cd, I meant to say that lokos really great. been reading some groovy & grails books ... also like the Business Rules ... top stuff that!
Jan 25 01:15:14 <CarlosRuiz> better I'll commit and you and MCalderon review, ok?
Jan 25 01:15:40 <CarlosRuiz> yep vpj-cd - what column? the engine?
Jan 25 01:15:41 <mark_o_> crooney, you're absolutly right. it works out of the box when product_id = null and qty = 0. even with the actual views.
Jan 25 01:15:44 <vpj-cd> crooney
Jan 25 01:15:55 <vpj-cd> it I mande I implment standard
Jan 25 01:16:02 <vpj-cd> javax.script
Jan 25 01:16:19 <crooney> mark_o_, great!
Jan 25 01:16:24 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz ok with me :-)
Jan 25 01:16:25 <vpj-cd> so you can implemt the script language you wish
Jan 25 01:16:38 <vpj-cd> the change are neext
Jan 25 01:17:01 <vpj-cd> now yon can call with sytaxis
Jan 25 01:17:25 <vpj-cd> @scrip:mycallout
Jan 25 01:17:39 <CarlosRuiz> :-( svn commit error
Jan 25 01:17:59 <crooney> javascript too! how about cobol :) ha ha just joking!
Jan 25 01:18:15 <vpj-cd> Cyes you can use any language
Jan 25 01:18:17 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz not ur lucky day, is it? ;-)
Jan 25 01:19:06 <hengsin> victor, how's your groovy integration work ? just like what Carlos did for bsh or you create the callout function in groovy and just invoke like normal java callout ?
Jan 25 01:19:16 <vpj-cd> croo you can choose
Jan 25 01:19:18 <vpj-cd> shoose
Jan 25 01:19:22 <vpj-cd> choose https://scripting.dev.java.net/
Jan 25 01:19:25 <vpj-cd> :-)
Jan 25 01:19:31 <vpj-cd> yes Low i have
Jan 25 01:19:40 <vpj-cd> now you can call any language script
Jan 25 01:19:41 <vpj-cd> https://scripting.dev.java.net/
Jan 25 01:19:50 <vpj-cd> I implemnt javax.script
Jan 25 01:19:55 <vpj-cd> and set a engine
Jan 25 01:20:20 <vpj-cd> my question now is where set what is the engine that I am use
Jan 25 01:20:42 <vpj-cd> my idea is add a column in table AD_Rule
Jan 25 01:20:44 <hengsin> Carlos, you've solved the prepared problem ?
Jan 25 01:21:08 <vpj-cd> called ScriptEngine with this references
Jan 25 01:21:22 <vpj-cd> Groovy,beanshell, etc
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Jan 25 01:21:43 <vpj-cd> or only set next way
Jan 25 01:22:00 <vpj-cd> @script:groovy:mycallout
Jan 25 01:22:01 <hengsin> victor - isn't javax.script need jdk6 ?
Jan 25 01:22:23 <vpj-cd> nop low you can compile separate
Jan 25 01:22:31 <vpj-cd> I have compile to java 1.5
Jan 25 01:22:33 <vpj-cd> in mac
Jan 25 01:22:40 <CarlosRuiz> tobi42, MCalderon, hengsin, uploaded the patch in wiki
Jan 25 01:22:43 <vpj-cd> mac have not java 6 :-(
Jan 25 01:22:56 <vpj-cd> que opinas carlos
Jan 25 01:23:09 <vpj-cd> pudedo agregar el campo :-)?
Jan 25 01:23:31 <CarlosRuiz> which is the column you need?
Jan 25 01:23:59 <vpj-cd> ScriptEngine
Jan 25 01:24:09 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz where in the wiki can I find it? can you put the url?
Jan 25 01:24:09 <CarlosRuiz> so, now the beanshell is called : @script:beanshell:myCallout
Jan 25 01:24:33 <CarlosRuiz> tobi -> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1854603&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 25 01:24:34 <fer_luck> vpj-cd: actually there's a developers preview java 1.6
Jan 25 01:24:37 <CarlosRuiz> patch1854603.patch
Jan 25 01:24:49 <vpj-cd> the idea is have a single Rule type called JSR 223 Scripting APIs
Jan 25 01:25:00 <vpj-cd> and have other field to set the script engine
Jan 25 01:25:19 <vpj-cd> the current are to java 1.6
Jan 25 01:25:27 <vpj-cd> but i test with java 5 and are work
Jan 25 01:25:55 <vpj-cd> I can replicate the functionality the Carlos with groovy
Jan 25 01:26:06 <CarlosRuiz> yep, why do you need scriptengine? if the "@script:groovy:mycallout" is saying groovy as the engine?
Jan 25 01:26:08 <stefan__> MCalderon ich gebe es für heute auf
Jan 25 01:26:35 <vpj-cd> yes Carlos I can use @script:groovy:mycallout or field
Jan 25 01:26:48 <crooney> i think sf maybe having problems ... waiting 5 mins for a new page but I thought it might just be my connection
Jan 25 01:26:50 <crooney> neat!
Jan 25 01:26:52 <crooney> I like the interpreted languages for small business rule changes though because they can change on the fly
Jan 25 01:26:54 <vpj-cd> but I am think in other case model validator
Jan 25 01:26:56 <crooney> never considered the sucurity though as some suggested
Jan 25 01:27:04 <crooney> vpj-cd, interesting ... I think I should consider upgrading to java 6 :)
Jan 25 01:27:04 <vpj-cd> validation rule
Jan 25 01:27:16 <vpj-cd> croo do not is necessary
Jan 25 01:27:22 <vpj-cd> I am run with java 5
Jan 25 01:27:26 <crooney> yes as I say very intersting ... I must make some to time to check that out
Jan 25 01:27:31 <vpj-cd> i have source and compile to java 5
Jan 25 01:27:43 <vpj-cd> I set with groovy and are work
Jan 25 01:27:55 <vpj-cd> i compile the javax.script to java 5 :-)
Jan 25 01:28:00 <hengsin> Carlos, your patch looks good to me.
Jan 25 01:28:34 <vpj-cd> my doubts is what is way to indicate the script engine in model validator
Jan 25 01:28:56 <vpj-cd> to call out is solve with @script:groovy:mycallout
Jan 25 01:29:05 <vpj-cd> but to other functionality
Jan 25 01:29:17 <vpj-cd> this are reason I want indicate it in the rule
Jan 25 01:29:18 <MCalderon> CarlosRuiz: I am going to test it
Jan 25 01:29:32 <jsSolutions> special day for us! so far, more bugs closed than opened
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Jan 25 01:30:13 <crooney> vpj-cd, haven't thought much about the details but yeah would be very useful in validation
Jan 25 01:30:14 <crooney> haven'ty used a rules engine in years but when I did once it was very powerful ...
Jan 25 01:30:20 <josephnexus> jssolutions
Jan 25 01:30:23 <josephnexus> yeah
Jan 25 01:30:25 <MCalderon> I am going for a quick lunch....
Jan 25 01:30:27 <josephnexus> it's been quite exciting in here
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Jan 25 01:30:30 <josephnexus> see ya mcalderon
Jan 25 01:30:37 <CarlosRuiz> "provecho" Mario :-)
Jan 25 01:30:42 <CarlosRuiz> así dicen por allá
Jan 25 01:30:46 <vpj-cd> yes croo yesterday Carlos implemnt with beans shell
Jan 25 01:31:04 <vpj-cd> en mexico tambien
Jan 25 01:31:12 <vpj-cd> buen provecho
Jan 25 01:31:22 <CarlosRuiz> yep, I would like to extend it also for small processes
Jan 25 01:31:29 <CarlosRuiz> some times you need to write processes that just do one update
Jan 25 01:31:36 <CarlosRuiz> and modelvalidators
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Jan 25 01:31:46 <vpj-cd> croo I now implement javax.script
Jan 25 01:31:55 <CarlosRuiz> but I haven't thought how to integrate it with modelvalidator
Jan 25 01:31:58 <vpj-cd> so you can use the script language that you wish
Jan 25 01:32:03 <vpj-cd> yes
Jan 25 01:32:09 <vpj-cd> Carlos mi pregunta
Jan 25 01:32:21 <vpj-cd> es yo puedo indicar la maquina de escript
Jan 25 01:32:36 <hwinke1> HI.... After reading nearly the whole adempiere wiki i have one short question... I tested Tiny the last days and have seen a showstopper in the invoicing functionality
Jan 25 01:32:45 <vpj-cd> de esta manera @script:groovy:mycall
Jan 25 01:32:50 <vpj-cd> asi no requiero agregar campo
Jan 25 01:32:57 <vpj-cd> pero cunado se implemente para otra cosa
Jan 25 01:33:05 <hwinke1> If you write a, lets say invoice in Adempiere
Jan 25 01:33:16 <vpj-cd> como indico la maquina si no esta en la db
Jan 25 01:33:23 <vpj-cd> no sabre que maquina esta el script
Jan 25 01:33:26 <vpj-cd> esa es mi duda
Jan 25 01:33:42 <vpj-cd> por eso quiero agregar el campo de script engine
Jan 25 01:33:47 <hwinke1> and later on the data of a businesspartner (customer) changed...
Jan 25 01:33:48 <vpj-cd> o si hay otra idea
Jan 25 01:33:56 <vpj-cd> podriamos decir
Jan 25 01:34:02 <vpj-cd> que el search key inicio con
Jan 25 01:34:11 <crooney> hwinke1, like their address?
Jan 25 01:34:30 <hwinke1> yes like adress
Jan 25 01:34:59 <hwinke1> and i open and print the document again, which adddress is used in THIS document
Jan 25 01:35:24 <vpj-cd> groovy:FillDescriptionWithName
Jan 25 01:35:28 <vpj-cd> or
Jan 25 01:35:40 <vpj-cd> beanshell:FillDescriptionWithName
Jan 25 01:35:48 <crooney> well that's a good question :)
Jan 25 01:36:17 <CarlosRuiz> Victor, I think all the next implementations of scripting must follow the same standard
Jan 25 01:36:18 <crooney> th enew address is used ... BUT
Jan 25 01:36:23 <hwinke1> Or lets say you have made a qoute to a customer, next day the PRoduct Price is changed... wich price is in the given Document ?
Jan 25 01:36:41 <CarlosRuiz> so, when we implement a process it must be called @script:groovy:myprocess - and the same for validators ...
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Jan 25 01:36:42 <crooney> in adempiere there is a thing called archives
Jan 25 01:36:49 <crooney> and you can set the automated archives to be add different levels
Jan 25 01:37:11 <crooney> so you can say ALL external documents are archived automatically
Jan 25 01:37:26 <vpj-cd> I set this way
Jan 25 01:37:27 <hwinke1> What means external documents ?
Jan 25 01:37:33 <crooney> then when you print an external document such as an invoice
Jan 25 01:37:34 <crooney> and pdf archive copy is craeted
Jan 25 01:38:13 <vpj-cd> but then is necessary that you called groovy:FillDescriptionWithName in serachkey in AD_Rule
Jan 25 01:38:16 <crooney> well yuo can define that yourself it can mean anything but here I mean documents sent external to your business
Jan 25 01:38:19 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz I tested your patch. looks good :-)
Jan 25 01:38:44 <crooney> you have the system running right? if you open the invoice window
Jan 25 01:39:08 <crooney> pick any invoice and click on the print preview icon
Jan 25 01:39:14 <hwinke1> no adempiere is not up and running yet...
Jan 25 01:39:17 <crooney> a printer with a magnifying glass
Jan 25 01:39:22 <hwinke1> sorry... tomorrow
Jan 25 01:39:36 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz: but as we now allow the same instance to be passed between activities, couldn't this lead to two threads accessing the same instance, if there is a fork in a workflow?
Jan 25 01:39:50 <vpj-cd> Carlos it are redary
Jan 25 01:39:52 <vpj-cd> and test
Jan 25 01:39:53 <crooney> ok then well it create an archive which is a pdf file stored in the DB
Jan 25 01:40:08 <vpj-cd> now ware work with same functionality you made
Jan 25 01:40:17 <crooney> then for any document you can press the archive button and a list of archived documents will be available
Jan 25 01:40:22 <vpj-cd> I commit in trunk
Jan 25 01:40:25 <crooney> so you can just reprint the precise document you printed the first time!
Jan 25 01:40:48 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz hengsin MCalderon: or are activities performed one after each other, even if the workflow forks?
Jan 25 01:41:15 <crooney> hwinke1, as I say you can switch that on to auto create for documents reports whatever... you can also manually archive
Jan 25 01:41:27 <CarlosRuiz> as I just saw tobi, split can open activities in parallel
Jan 25 01:41:35 <vpj-cd> ready now adempiere support any script language
Jan 25 01:41:37 <crooney> you just preview the document, hit they archive button and it's stored
Jan 25 01:41:42 <vpj-cd> and callout
Jan 25 01:41:43 <vpj-cd> :-)
Jan 25 01:41:51 <vpj-cd> into callout
Jan 25 01:41:59 <hwinke1> I'm just courios about, because nearly all ERP systems not desgined in Germany have this "issue" so far I know the systems here each document has it own livecycle, Data are copied in to this documents and are not a reference
Jan 25 01:42:06 <CarlosRuiz> what's needed to support groovy Victor? just add the jar?
Jan 25 01:42:30 <vpj-cd> is add 2 jar
Jan 25 01:42:40 <CarlosRuiz> tobi42: ... thinking on "couldn't this lead to two threads accessing the same instance, if there is a fork in a workflow?"
Jan 25 01:42:58 <vpj-cd> nop 3 jar
Jan 25 01:43:01 <CarlosRuiz> great, so we can upload the jar and we support groovy too - big improvement Victor
Jan 25 01:43:20 <crooney> hwinke1, well as I say we just store the id of the address so if it changes so would the newly printed doc but the old onces are store in pdf form so they don't change
Jan 25 01:43:21 <vpj-cd> jsr223.jar
Jan 25 01:43:40 <hwinke1> crooney, same question with a Qoute given to a customer and the price is changed later on... I also neeed to go to the archieved PDF ?
Jan 25 01:43:46 <CarlosRuiz> ... thinking on consequences of two threads accessing the same PO object
Jan 25 01:43:56 <hengsin> Victor: does your integration support the use of GroovyClassLoader ? i.e implement Callout or ModelValidator in groovy and invoke just like normal java callout ?
Jan 25 01:44:04 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz: how about this: instead of passing the instance itself we pass a clone of it?
Jan 25 01:44:04 <vpj-cd> update bsh 2 version
Jan 25 01:44:14 <crooney> if you are sending, multiple quotes and want to review how it changed yes
Jan 25 01:44:32 <vpj-cd> and bsh-engine.jar
Jan 25 01:44:33 <CarlosRuiz> yes tobi, it sounds better
Jan 25 01:44:35 <vpj-cd> to grooby
Jan 25 01:44:43 <vpj-cd> is groovy library
Jan 25 01:44:59 <vpj-cd> and groovy-engine.jar
Jan 25 01:45:10 <vpj-cd> and so any script engine
Jan 25 01:45:15 <vpj-cd> you ant
Jan 25 01:45:22 <crooney> hwinke1, well a quote can be converted to an order too ... so you just convert the last one .. but if you wanted to review how it was changing you could archieve each and review laters
Jan 25 01:45:31 <vpj-cd> yes Low
Jan 25 01:45:43 <vpj-cd> now I call use the standard javax.script
Jan 25 01:46:01 <vpj-cd> ScriptEngine engine = factory.getEngineByName("beanshell");
Jan 25 01:46:07 <vpj-cd> or ScriptEngine engine = factory.getEngineByName("groovy");
Jan 25 01:46:14 <crooney> tehy pdf is withing the App by the way .. you don't need to go outside of it to review the pdf
Jan 25 01:46:16 <vpj-cd> engine.eval(fact).toString();
Jan 25 01:46:22 <crooney> hwinke1, although you can export it if you wish
Jan 25 01:47:00 <CarlosRuiz> Victor - the script editor window will just serve for beanshell - it could be changed to add a field specifying the engine
Jan 25 01:47:17 <crooney> there is history keep on some things such as prices or exhange rates
Jan 25 01:47:22 <CarlosRuiz> tobi42: how do we clone the PO ?
Jan 25 01:47:31 <hengsin> Victor - http://groovy.codehaus.org/Embedding+Groovy, see the TestInterface.java example, do your implementation support usage of that approach ?
Jan 25 01:47:31 <fer_luck> it would be nice to be able to execute sql form the scripts in groovy/beanshell
Jan 25 01:47:32 <fer_luck> :-D
Jan 25 01:48:00 <CarlosRuiz> you can fer_luck
Jan 25 01:48:01 <vpj-cd> yes I think we can
Jan 25 01:48:04 <crooney> pricelists have from to dates
Jan 25 01:48:05 <tobi42> CarlosRuiz: so how about I add a method like "cloneDocAction" to the interface and add it to all implementors? I have no idea about how Object.clone() works...
Jan 25 01:48:08 <vpj-cd> no Low
Jan 25 01:48:17 <vpj-cd> I use this foucus
Jan 25 01:48:25 <fer_luck> CarlosRuiz: just one thing, what about a smart user that executes a select * from ad_user? :-)
Jan 25 01:48:27 <vpj-cd> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GROOVY/JSR+223+Scripting+with+Groovy
Jan 25 01:48:32 <vpj-cd> i use the standard
Jan 25 01:48:32 <hwinke1> cronney: have a look here: http://tinyerp.org/wiki/index.php/Main/GermanNeedsEn
Jan 25 01:48:34 <fer_luck> or try to do a malicious insert?
Jan 25 01:48:36 <CarlosRuiz> exactly - that's the issue with security
Jan 25 01:48:38 <CarlosRuiz> you can't open that for users
Jan 25 01:48:39 <vpj-cd> and are wotk to bsh aalso
Jan 25 01:48:44 <CarlosRuiz> a user can do a DROP TABLE :-)
Jan 25 01:48:48 <hwinke1> scroll down to historic data
Jan 25 01:49:00 <fer_luck> for example. or find out what's the password of the company director. :-)
Jan 25 01:49:10 <hengsin> Carlos, tobi - parallel thread updating the same table, same record - we can have deadlock or conflicting changes too ...
Jan 25 01:49:14 <vpj-cd> now a can execute any script
Jan 25 01:49:14 <fer_luck> unless we sanitize the sql. :-)
Jan 25 01:49:19 <vpj-cd> out modify the code
Jan 25 01:49:31 <vpj-cd> out = without
Jan 25 01:50:18 <crooney> fer_luck, CarlosRuiz, vpj-cd .. I don't thin kyou can ever get around this and must as Carlos suggested place the burden on those who are allowed to write new scripts
Jan 25 01:50:38 <CarlosRuiz> even worst - hengsin the run() is changing the transaction for the PO
Jan 25 01:51:06 <fer_luck> crooney: it's best of course to do that
Jan 25 01:51:09 <hengsin> yes, VERY fragile ...
Jan 25 01:51:51 <CarlosRuiz> yep tobi42, maybe we could implement clone() method and interface Cloneable in DocAction
Jan 25 01:52:24 <hwinke1> here ist a tread about historic data has also a reference to ofbiz: http://www.tinyerp.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132
Jan 25 01:52:38 <vpj-cd> ok the now work neext way
Jan 25 01:52:44 <hengsin> Carlos, that doesn't resolve the parallel thread updating the same table, same record issue though - we need to work/think further on this.
Jan 25 01:53:09 <vpj-cd> you call a script next way
Jan 25 01:53:21 <vpj-cd> in callout field you set
Jan 25 01:53:40 <vpj-cd> @script:groovy:mycallout
Jan 25 01:53:52 <tobi42> but wouldn't those instance have different transactions and thus be serialized by jdbc? I think a trx is atomic, isn't it
Jan 25 01:54:12 <vpj-cd> @script:beanshell:mycallout
Jan 25 01:54:37 <tobi42> hengsin: so there would be no deadlock....i guess....
Jan 25 01:55:03 <CarlosRuiz> what if we implement a waiting for the thread
Jan 25 01:55:08 <vpj-cd> whe you create the rule you have set the search key next way grooby:mycallout
Jan 25 01:55:15 <vpj-cd> i sorry
Jan 25 01:55:22 <vpj-cd> groovy:mycallout
Jan 25 01:55:53 <hengsin> tobi: the potential of conflicting changes and dead lock is there, you can clone the PO but they still update same table, same record.
Jan 25 01:56:11 <hengsin> carlos, maybe waiting can work ...
Jan 25 01:56:20 <hengsin> worth a trial.
Jan 25 01:56:41 <CarlosRuiz> tobi42: can you implement some waiting mechanism after starting the thread?
Jan 25 01:57:08 <hengsin> carlos, that is easy, Thread t = new Thread(), t.join()
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Jan 25 01:57:32 <MCalderon> hi I am back
Jan 25 01:58:34 <MCalderon> I see 1854603 is still hot on top
Jan 25 01:58:35 <hengsin> victor: the jsr approach is nice but I think it hide the real power or groovyscripting ...
Jan 25 02:00:06 <tobi42> hengsin carlos i think we just need to make MWFActivity.run sychronized
Jan 25 02:00:44 <hengsin> tobi - how's that help ?
Jan 25 02:01:01 <tobi42> then differend DocAction would run in parallel , but the same instance could still be passed between activities and would run one after another...
Jan 25 02:01:12 <hengsin> we are not talking about java thread deadlock here but db deadlock ...
Jan 25 02:02:23 <tobi42> right, but with carloz patch we have (same table and same row) means (same PO in two instances)
Jan 25 02:02:44 <CarlosRuiz> Heng Sin, can we implement the main thread to continue running (the menu and windows) - but the avoid that WF Engine starts a new activity if the previous hasn't finished?
Jan 25 02:02:54 <tobi42> and with run beeing synchronized they run after each other
Jan 25 02:03:12 <tobi42> so there should be no db deadlock either
Jan 25 02:04:42 <CarlosRuiz> ue
Jan 25 02:05:09 <CarlosRuiz> yep, tobi42 I'm going to change to another bug, you can continue tuning this, ok?
Jan 25 02:05:16 <CarlosRuiz> I like the waiting or synchronizing approach
Jan 25 02:05:46 <CarlosRuiz> but it will be great if the main thread (menu and windows) can continue running and the WF thread is what is waiting and synchronized
Jan 25 02:05:56 <CarlosRuiz> but if that's hard - I'll support also to put the main thread in wait
Jan 25 02:06:06 <CarlosRuiz> it's safer
Jan 25 02:06:48 <tobi42> me too. hengsin i'm not very experiences with threading an t.join(), do you think it's better than "public synchronized void run()" in MWFActivity?
Jan 25 02:09:13 <hengsin> synchronized method is to serialize concurrent execution of the same instance only.
Jan 25 02:10:10 <CarlosRuiz> mark_o_: AYT?
Jan 25 02:11:09 <hengsin> tobi, can you try this - with carlos's patch, remove the new thread code like what you have change earlier ( exclude the passing of trxname ) ?
Jan 25 02:11:50 <hengsin> I mean the line 335 and 336 in MWFProcess.
Jan 25 02:12:37 <tobi42> hengsin: 1st about the synchronized: if I understand it right, same serialization of instance would be enough. cause with carlos patch, (same instance) <=> (same database table and row)
Jan 25 02:12:45 <tobi42> 2nd: ok, i'll try
Jan 25 02:13:49 <hengsin> synchronized method of MWFActivity is synchronize on MWFActivitiy instance, not m_po.
Jan 25 02:14:28 <mark_o_> CarlosRuiz jepp
Jan 25 02:14:58 <tobi42> hengsin: now i get it, thx for your patience :)
Jan 25 02:15:25 <CarlosRuiz> I see we can put comments in the invoice - it's right it works for me - just wondering then what the "UNION -- comment lines" on the C_InvoiceLineTax_V
Jan 25 02:15:38 <CarlosRuiz> it's not serving for anything - anyways we can just left it there
Jan 25 02:15:43 <mark_o_> jepp, i was wondering too
Jan 25 02:15:43 <CarlosRuiz> it's harmless
Jan 25 02:16:03 <mark_o_> but i didnt want to touch that
Jan 25 02:16:16 <CarlosRuiz> yep, agree
Jan 25 02:16:22 <CarlosRuiz> so, we can close the bug
Jan 25 02:16:34 <mark_o_> ok, i'll do that. thanx
Jan 25 02:16:53 <CarlosRuiz> AFalcone: how are you going with the [ 1871567 ] Wrong value in Payment document
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Jan 25 02:19:41 <AFalcone> Hi Carlos
Jan 25 02:19:59 <AFalcone> I'm working still
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Jan 25 02:20:59 <CarlosRuiz> want to know my idea about?
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Jan 25 02:39:46 <CarlosRuiz> croo, mark_o_, AFalcone : I'm generating passwords for you to use the centralized script approach
Jan 25 02:40:13 <AFalcone> ok, thanks Carlos
Jan 25 02:40:19 <mark_o_> thanx carlos
Jan 25 02:40:33 <croo> ok thx carlos
Jan 25 02:41:21 <tobi42> hengsin CarlosRuiz MCalderon: i believe 1854603 is solved know combining Carloz patch with hengsins way of serializing-by-not-using-threads :-)
Jan 25 02:41:51 <CarlosRuiz> good
Jan 25 02:42:12 <hengsin> tobi, how's that peform ? slower or no difference ?
Jan 25 02:42:18 <MCalderon> tobi: great! I am workiong on another bug with Susanne, but I can test your patch
Jan 25 02:43:11 <hengsin> carlos, looks like I can't commit either :(
Jan 25 02:43:15 <tobi42> hengsin: I can't tell if its slower
Jan 25 02:43:38 <tobi42> ...i guess it's slower on a multiprocessor and the same on a non-smp...
Jan 25 02:43:45 <hengsin> tobi: sounds ok then.
Jan 25 02:44:25 <tobi42> I'll uppload the patch to the bug tracker for review
Jan 25 02:51:34 <CarlosRuiz> svn corrupted?
Jan 25 02:51:58 <CarlosRuiz> ready croo, mark_o_, AFalcone and armen have passwords for centralized ID (please review your e-mails)
Jan 25 02:53:42 <croo> ok got it
Jan 25 02:53:48 <hengsin> carlos, no, just slow line here, mine finally goes through.
Jan 25 02:55:12 <AFalcone> got it
Jan 25 02:55:27 <mark_o_> ok got it
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Jan 25 02:57:00 <tobi42> update still works. latest revision is 4298 ([ 1646152 ] by hengsin)
Jan 25 02:58:24 <hengsin> tobi, can you verify whether my fix work.
Jan 25 02:59:16 <tobi42> I updated the tracker of [ 1854603 ]
Jan 25 02:59:23 <tobi42> hengsin yess i'll try
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Jan 25 03:00:54 <CarlosRuiz> mark_o_: about https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=879332&aid=1846279&group_id=176962
Jan 25 03:01:57 <mark_o_> yes?
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Jan 25 03:02:56 <CarlosRuiz> ah, nothing, the column is already there
Jan 25 03:03:21 <CarlosRuiz> as you have permissions in trunk you can upload the migration script - and also when changed a view we put the script in ddlutils directory
Jan 25 03:03:41 <CarlosRuiz> I mean - as you have now :-)
Jan 25 03:03:48 <mark_o_> :-)
Jan 25 03:03:55 <tobi42> hengsin: your fix works :-)
Jan 25 03:03:56 <mark_o_> yepp, i'll do that
Jan 25 03:04:26 <hengsin> tobi: thx for testing that.
Jan 25 03:06:05 <tobi42> i call it a day. see you tomorrow and thx for this nice day of inspiring work :-)
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Jan 25 03:07:09 <hengsin> gtg, very good session tonight ( my local time that is, the asia session is somewhat quiet ... ). Hope we will have the next bug day soon, enjoy!
Jan 25 03:07:39 <hengsin> bye carlos, mark and victor.
Jan 25 03:07:47 <josephnexus> see ya hengsin
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Jan 25 03:14:46 <SCalderon> Katja,CarlosRuiz, crooney,hello, I found a solution for the mentioned problem with attributesetinstances. In bug 1879091 it is described. Could anybody look at it and tell me if it is ok, please? For us it was a great problem this duplication of lots.
Jan 25 03:16:08 <CarlosRuiz> ufff, sourceforge is really slow :-(
Jan 25 03:16:10 <CarlosRuiz> Suzanne, can you pass me the link of the bug page, please?
Jan 25 03:16:41 <CarlosRuiz> got it in e-mail, no problem
Jan 25 03:16:55 <mark_o_> ok folks. have to go know. you really all made my day today! it was great. thanx alot. ;-) see you tomorrow again. bye
Jan 25 03:17:01 <SCalderon> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1879091&group_id=176962&atid=879332
Jan 25 03:17:22 <CarlosRuiz> by mark - thanks a lot
Jan 25 03:17:40 <MCalderon> bye mark
Jan 25 03:17:55 <MCalderon> thanks a lot
Jan 25 03:18:10 <MCalderon> bye hengsin
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Jan 25 03:18:57 <fer_luck> mark_o_: c ya mark
Jan 25 03:19:03 <fer_luck> thanks for your time! :-)
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Jan 25 03:19:35 <mark_o_> see you later
Jan 25 03:19:58 <MCalderon> CarlosRuiz: this was a bug our customers had always complained about. They said there were identical lots repeated. It is a source of confusion.
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Jan 25 03:20:36 <MCalderon> Checking another bugs Susanne encountered the solution.
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Jan 25 03:20:47 <CarlosRuiz> do you mean in M_Storage?
Jan 25 03:23:13 <MCalderon> in Material receipt. We must be sure that if the lot already exists in the company, it is used.
Jan 25 03:23:37 <MCalderon> even if this lot is not in the warehouse the receipt is going to.
Jan 25 03:24:18 <MCalderon> now, Adempiere considers only lots of the warehouse receiving
Jan 25 03:24:40 <MCalderon> but ignores lots of other warehouses
Jan 25 03:25:45 <MCalderon> with the patch, all lots can be chosen, avoiding duplicating the lot # and guarantee date for the same product
Jan 25 03:26:15 <MCalderon> Maybe somebody else can test it
Jan 25 03:26:41 <CarlosRuiz> I understand now
Jan 25 03:26:51 <MCalderon> very important issue
Jan 25 03:27:42 <MCalderon> in the reports we saw the same lot for the same product on different lines with different quantities
Jan 25 03:28:05 <MCalderon> and for the selection it is worse
Jan 25 03:29:53 <CarlosRuiz> testing it now ...
Jan 25 03:30:10 <CarlosRuiz> with fertilizer GW
Jan 25 03:33:16 <CarlosRuiz> problem replicated ... let's see the solution from Suzanne
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Jan 25 03:34:52 <MCalderon> CarlosRuiz: is the error with tobi patched? I can test it right now.
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Jan 25 03:36:37 <CarlosRuiz> yes, finally uploaded to trunk - please test it
Jan 25 03:36:49 <MCalderon> copied
Jan 25 03:37:59 <MCalderon> 4299 - OK?
Jan 25 03:39:46 <MCalderon> my dear, SVN it is sloooow
Jan 25 03:40:11 <fer_luck> well.. fisheye haven't even updated..
Jan 25 03:40:26 <fer_luck> it's on 4228 yet
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Jan 25 03:46:28 <CarlosRuiz> my svn commit just never finished - it uploaded, sent the e-mail, but never answered and blocked my eclipse :-(
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Jan 25 03:48:07 <MCalderon> I am stuck at the same place: I cannot update
Jan 25 03:48:21 <MCalderon> three times synchronized
Jan 25 03:48:30 <MCalderon> none updated
Jan 25 03:49:00 <CarlosRuiz> tomorrow in the news : too much activity in adempiere project created a "Denial of Service" at sourceforge :-D
Jan 25 03:49:13 <MCalderon> great news!
Jan 25 03:49:51 <MCalderon> fer_luck: you are further than me. I stuck on 4225!
Jan 25 03:50:14 <MCalderon> history tells me it goes to 4299
Jan 25 03:50:16 <fer_luck> hahaha
Jan 25 03:50:19 <fer_luck> that's a good one carlos
Jan 25 03:51:18 <MCalderon> If I can't manage it, I'll test it tomorrow & comment it
Jan 25 03:51:29 <CarlosRuiz> "sourceforge was not prepared for adempiere bug day"
Jan 25 03:52:03 <CarlosRuiz> I'm ready to test the Suzanne patch ...
Jan 25 03:52:46 <SCalderon> hopefully it works CarlosRuiz
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Jan 25 03:58:49 <katja> Zdravo Bojana, je kaj novega glede buga, ki smo ga v službi gledali? Pišiva si po mailu, malo slovenščine pa ne škodi :o))
Jan 25 04:00:46 <|bojana|> Ciao katja, delam na tem bugu...
Jan 25 04:04:07 <MWeber> Sourceforge is really damn slow...
Jan 25 04:04:31 <MWeber> ...i new nearly 90 minutes to update from SVN...
Jan 25 04:06:19 <MWeber> ...unlucky we had a profession meeting for 3 hours after the trunk was updated..
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Jan 25 04:06:20 <xp_prg> hi all!
Jan 25 04:07:50 <MWeber> Just to understand the generall patching process...a lot of open prio 9 have some some solution that are discussed...what about this patching suggests??
Jan 25 04:07:57 <MWeber> Do they need more testing?
Jan 25 04:08:25 <MWeber> Or are those not accepted??
Jan 25 04:10:48 <CarlosRuiz> SCalderon: AYT?
Jan 25 04:10:59 <CarlosRuiz> Hi Tim
Jan 25 04:11:43 <CarlosRuiz> MWeber: those patches must be tested - if the test works then express it in comments to integrate in trunk
Jan 25 04:11:59 <xp_prg> hi CarlosRuiz how are you my friend?!
Jan 25 04:12:07 <CarlosRuiz> fine, thanks
Jan 25 04:12:12 <MCalderon> hi tim
Jan 25 04:12:38 <fer_luck> xp_prg: tim! ;-)
Jan 25 04:12:41 <CarlosRuiz> Mario, Suzanne, two suggestions
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Jan 25 04:12:59 <xp_prg> fer_luck hi, wow lots of people are in here today, what is going on?
Jan 25 04:13:00 <CarlosRuiz> Suzanne patch break the Product Costs window - or any window with ASI and without doc type
Jan 25 04:13:15 <fer_luck> later we had like more than 44 persons logged in
Jan 25 04:13:19 <CarlosRuiz> I made a small fix for that, just checking if (C_DocType_ID > 0) {
Jan 25 04:13:20 <fer_luck> bugday?
Jan 25 04:13:21 <fer_luck> :-)
Jan 25 04:13:29 <fer_luck> knock knock tim. :-P
Jan 25 04:13:42 <xp_prg> I was thinking it was that :>
Jan 25 04:13:58 <MWeber> @Carlos: Makes me quiet unsure if working patched are still discussed...
Jan 25 04:14:12 <CarlosRuiz> second suggestion:
Jan 25 04:14:13 <CarlosRuiz> MDocType doctype = new MDocType (Env.getCtx(), C_DocType_ID, "aA");
Jan 25 04:14:13 <CarlosRuiz> the third argument is the transaction name - if there is no transaction name you must use null, like:
Jan 25 04:14:13 <CarlosRuiz> MDocType doctype = new MDocType (Env.getCtx(), C_DocType_ID, null);
Jan 25 04:14:13 <CarlosRuiz> I'm going to upload patch in subversion now
Jan 25 04:14:58 <karsten-thiemann> hi CarlosRuiz, fer_luck, xp_prg - still a full/busy place here :)
Jan 25 04:15:10 <fer_luck> karsten-thiemann: you should be sleeping
Jan 25 04:15:11 <fer_luck> :-)
Jan 25 04:15:25 <CarlosRuiz> Hi karsten
Jan 25 04:15:31 <MWeber> hi karsten...nice talk yesterday...had to leave to get the train
Jan 25 04:15:32 <fer_luck> xp_prg: you didn't remember?
Jan 25 04:15:55 <karsten-thiemann> not yet - but I was busy today - and had to travel a bit
Jan 25 04:16:23 <karsten-thiemann> hi MWeber - yeah it was very intersting to talk to the openbravo guy
Jan 25 04:17:05 <MWeber> @karsten: was the bravo guy at your talk...i did not see him...
Jan 25 04:17:30 <CarlosRuiz> since yesterday commits on svn sourceforge never finishes - and they let my svn broken - after each commit I need to cancel (after receiving the commit e-mail) then cleanup - then revert and then update
Jan 25 04:17:54 <fer_luck> I got a customer with problems on his xen server today.. got to fix that damned machine
Jan 25 04:17:58 <fer_luck> :-s
Jan 25 04:18:02 <MWeber> @karsten: did he understand your german talk?
Jan 25 04:18:52 <CarlosRuiz> more news for tomorrow : "sourceforge servers suffered the adempiere community power" :-D
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Jan 25 04:19:11 <josh-conversant> hi :)
Jan 25 04:21:21 <josh-conversant> red1: Good morning
Jan 25 04:21:22 <karsten-thiemann> MWeber: it was in the evening on the after show party :) Staatsempfang..
Jan 25 04:23:55 <CarlosRuiz> just trying a svn commit - half hour later ......................
Jan 25 04:24:03 <CarlosRuiz> ....................................................................
Jan 25 04:24:27 <CarlosRuiz> [ yawn ]
Jan 25 04:25:08 <fer_luck> it's so damn slow.. but it's been like that for some time already
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Jan 25 04:31:55 <MCalderon> fer_luck: has somebody solved the tax tab issue?
Jan 25 04:32:09 <fer_luck> I was looking at it, but had to stop mario. :-s
Jan 25 04:32:10 <SCalderon> CarlosRuiz: yes, again
Jan 25 04:32:42 <CarlosRuiz> uff, finally, uploaded your patch with revision 4300
Jan 25 04:32:56 <fer_luck> wow.. rev4300
Jan 25 04:32:59 <fer_luck> :-)
Jan 25 04:33:11 <fer_luck> MCalderon: Mario, I'll probably look at it tomorrow...
Jan 25 04:33:27 <fer_luck> I need to fix it, as my customers all use the included tab feature.. (made some patches to them.. hehe)
Jan 25 04:33:31 <MCalderon> it is very important for us Fernando, because our customers want it.
Jan 25 04:33:40 <MCalderon> fer_luck: Yes, it's been a long day
Jan 25 04:33:51 <MCalderon> a wonderful day may I say
Jan 25 04:33:59 <CarlosRuiz> brb ...
Jan 25 04:34:00 <fer_luck> we should have monthly days like this
Jan 25 04:34:51 <MCalderon> I agree completely Fernando
Jan 25 04:35:34 <fer_luck> MCalderon: where do you live Mario?
Jan 25 04:36:11 <MCalderon> in San Salvador, El Salvador
Jan 25 04:37:02 <nwessel> hi
Jan 25 04:37:09 <nwessel> I do agree as well fer_luck
Jan 25 04:37:35 <nwessel> we (metas) all had a lot of fun today working together and seeing adempiere progressing
Jan 25 04:37:43 <nwessel> even the activity stats at SF went up
Jan 25 04:37:52 <fer_luck> MCalderon: I'll see if I can do that today at night at home Mario, if I can't tomorrow I'll fight the lion. :-0
Jan 25 04:38:22 <MCalderon> lol
Jan 25 04:38:45 <fer_luck> hehe
Jan 25 04:39:30 <MCalderon> my eclipse just stops at Revision 4225. I think I am going home. I am here since 5 am.
Jan 25 04:39:50 <MCalderon> CarlosRuiz: I will test Revision 4299 and tell you
Jan 25 04:40:16 <MCalderon> bye everybody, it was a pleasure sharing this glorious day with you all
Jan 25 04:40:34 <nwessel> by Mario
Jan 25 04:40:37 <nwessel> well done!
Jan 25 04:41:03 <fer_luck> c ya mario!
Jan 25 04:41:09 <karsten-thiemann> bye mario
Jan 25 04:41:10 <nwessel> hi karsten-thiemann, how was your presentation today?
Jan 25 04:41:26 <karsten-thiemann> it was yesterday - was fine
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Jan 25 04:41:45 <karsten-thiemann> we had some friends to ask us some nice questions :)
Jan 25 04:41:53 <nwessel> openbravo?
Jan 25 04:42:06 <karsten-thiemann> no adempierians
Jan 25 04:42:10 <nwessel> very good
Jan 25 04:42:23 <nwessel> the kmux guys?
Jan 25 04:42:31 <karsten-thiemann> yes
Jan 25 04:43:03 <nwessel> its good to have support
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Jan 25 04:43:12 <nwessel> it helped me to have you guys at my presentation
Jan 25 04:43:28 <nwessel> did you see how won the competition?
Jan 25 04:45:19 <karsten-thiemann> yes - a data mining tool
Jan 25 04:45:28 <nwessel> and second: openbravo
Jan 25 04:45:31 <nwessel> super
Jan 25 04:45:32 <karsten-thiemann> openbravo was on second place
Jan 25 04:45:56 <nwessel> this is ridiculous
Jan 25 04:46:07 <nwessel> to give a 6 mio company 25K € for startup funding
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Jan 25 04:53:48 <CarlosRuiz> I'm back
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Jan 25 05:01:25 <karsten-thiemann> they where surprised that heise asked them to participate at the competition
Jan 25 05:01:45 <karsten-thiemann> but if somebody wants to give you money - nobody would say no..
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Jan 25 05:15:42 <nwessel> heise asked them?
Jan 25 05:15:52 <nwessel> then it is even more ridiculous
Jan 25 05:16:27 <karsten-thiemann> got to go - have much fun!
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Jan 25 05:41:52 <hwinkel> Hi... anybody know the issue with historic / temporal date (i.e. invoices, qoutes) expained here http://tinyerp.org/wiki/index.php/Main/GermanNeedsEn and here: http://www.tinyerp.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132 will be adressed in Adempiere ?
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Jan 25 05:49:37 <vpj-cd> http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4740486
Jan 25 05:50:12 <vpj-cd> ready the script engine now is available
Jan 25 05:50:18 <vpj-cd> :-)
Jan 25 05:50:37 <CarlosRuiz> great work Victor
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Jan 25 06:17:56 <josh-conversant> Hi guys, does anyone know off the top of their head what is the easiest/best way to get Compiere Home from any class?
Jan 25 06:17:59 <josh-conversant> in the code
Jan 25 06:18:59 <josh-conversant> Is Ini.getCompiereHome() the best way?
Jan 25 06:19:24 <CarlosRuiz> org.compiere.util.Ini.findAdempiereHome()
Jan 25 06:23:37 <josh-conversant> CarlosRuiz: yea my trouble is that (im using it in a custom Payment Processor class) this class is called from both the web store (running on linux server) and from client (running on Win XP)
Jan 25 06:25:45 <red1> hola.. just woke up here...
Jan 25 06:26:21 <red1> vpj-cd, last nite i talked to fred posterita.. he said that u broke some codes in posterita... he wants to commit many changes they solved in posterita
Jan 25 06:26:42 <vpj-cd> hi red1
Jan 25 06:26:49 <red1> but not sure since its frozen.. i asked them to write to forum to ask for unfreeze vote..
Jan 25 06:27:09 <vpj-cd> hi red1
Jan 25 06:27:29 <vpj-cd> I made change because the design is bad
Jan 25 06:27:31 <red1> si.. hola vpj-cd :-)
Jan 25 06:27:41 <vpj-cd> posterita only support oracle
Jan 25 06:27:54 <vpj-cd> i modify to support postgresql
Jan 25 06:27:55 <red1> i asked them to make visible what is happening.. they too busy
Jan 25 06:27:56 <vpj-cd> also
Jan 25 06:28:05 <vpj-cd> but they never answared
Jan 25 06:28:25 <red1> and they say they hard to find time to give howto for Ajax
Jan 25 06:28:26 <moyses> hola victor...
Jan 25 06:28:30 <vpj-cd> the code I set now is neutral
Jan 25 06:28:32 <moyses> hola red, carlos..
Jan 25 06:28:36 <vpj-cd> and I test
Jan 25 06:28:52 <red1> yeah you are rite.. they hard to answer, they say they too busy
Jan 25 06:28:54 <vpj-cd> now also work with bouth
Jan 25 06:28:57 <red1> hola moyses
Jan 25 06:28:58 <vpj-cd> both
Jan 25 06:29:13 <red1> i told them to follow Libero example..
Jan 25 06:29:33 <red1> but we can see that at the moment they cannot manage that
Jan 25 06:29:58 <red1> we can try to make traige on Posterita next time... also with their ajax... unless we got ideas about GWT
Jan 25 06:30:12 <josh-conversant> red1: Hi :)
Jan 25 06:30:20 <vpj-cd> Hola Moy
Jan 25 06:30:28 <vpj-cd> debes estar feliz Moy
Jan 25 06:30:30 <vpj-cd> ejejeje
Jan 25 06:31:02 <vpj-cd> red1 the issue is that posteritan do not work with svn
Jan 25 06:31:07 <vpj-cd> posterita
Jan 25 06:31:21 <vpj-cd> they should review the patch
Jan 25 06:31:37 <vpj-cd> I allocate all to posterita
Jan 25 06:32:12 <vpj-cd> moyses now you can use lived python in adempiere to call out
Jan 25 06:32:14 <vpj-cd> :-)
Jan 25 06:32:52 <red1> vpj-cd, what???!!!
Jan 25 06:32:57 <moyses> did you test it victor?
Jan 25 06:32:59 <red1> :))
Jan 25 06:33:09 <red1> live python??
Jan 25 06:33:18 <vpj-cd> https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4740486
Jan 25 06:33:24 <vpj-cd> :-)
Jan 25 06:33:39 <red1> vpj-cd, yes posterita is not active in SVN ... it is not so good
Jan 25 06:34:00 <vpj-cd> I test with with grooby , beanshell
Jan 25 06:34:01 <red1> wow.. groovy!
Jan 25 06:34:15 <vpj-cd> you need try with jhyton
Jan 25 06:34:17 <vpj-cd> :-)
Jan 25 06:34:26 <CarlosRuiz> Hola moyses
Jan 25 06:34:26 <red1> i just wrote to kontro to try do it yesterday.. he said he has bad health in winter
Jan 25 06:34:31 <CarlosRuiz> Hola red1
Jan 25 06:34:44 <red1> Peace CarlosRuiz !!!
Jan 25 06:34:49 <vpj-cd> moyses you that know phyton you can set some script plese
Jan 25 06:34:50 <vpj-cd> ?
Jan 25 06:35:07 <CarlosRuiz> finally we shut down sourceforge
Jan 25 06:35:09 <vpj-cd> somebody wish include other script
Jan 25 06:35:11 <vpj-cd> https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4740486
Jan 25 06:35:14 <red1> yes moyses .. make an official opening ceremony
Jan 25 06:35:19 <vpj-cd> https://scripting.dev.java.net/
Jan 25 06:35:19 <CarlosRuiz> sourceforge couldn't cope the force of adempiere bug day :-D
Jan 25 06:35:20 <red1> i will try SVN update..
Jan 25 06:35:30 <red1> impossible
Jan 25 06:35:36 <vpj-cd> you need say to adding in project
Jan 25 06:35:38 <red1> the great SourceForge??!!!
Jan 25 06:35:48 <vpj-cd> are top
Jan 25 06:35:53 <CarlosRuiz> subversion is down on sourceforge
Jan 25 06:36:08 <CarlosRuiz> Moyses - take a look at http://adempiere.com/wiki/index.php/Script_Callout
Jan 25 06:36:09 <vpj-cd> the suspend the service
Jan 25 06:36:30 <red1> i tot i m slowest... i still yet to debug further MInOut for serialised single line storage
Jan 25 06:36:34 <CarlosRuiz> I'm updating the images
Jan 25 06:36:45 <moyses> great I will check it out..
Jan 25 06:36:49 <moyses> well if svn allows it...
Jan 25 06:36:51 <red1> ah SVN timeout here
Jan 25 06:36:56 <red1> we been banned
Jan 25 06:37:05 <red1> :-P
Jan 25 06:37:28 <moyses> thanks Carlos I will take it a look...
Jan 25 06:37:56 <moyses> congratulations... it will be nice to compare an small callout in three different languages...
Jan 25 06:38:08 <moyses> just to check the performance...
Jan 25 06:38:32 <vpj-cd> yes
Jan 25 06:38:41 <vpj-cd> you need take last coment
Jan 25 06:38:44 <red1> our downloads!!! hit 820+
Jan 25 06:38:57 <vpj-cd> comment the https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4740486
Jan 25 06:39:16 <vpj-cd> we need update the wiki :-)
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Jan 25 06:41:19 <vpj-cd> Red1 the code do not break in posterita
Jan 25 06:41:27 <vpj-cd> if you dowload the current code
Jan 25 06:41:40 <vpj-cd> you can use posterita in oracle and postgresql
Jan 25 06:41:49 <red1> yeah.. but they say it does..they say they make better code
Jan 25 06:41:55 <red1> i asked them to commit to show
Jan 25 06:42:07 <vpj-cd> I supposed that posterita have other version that do not is public
Jan 25 06:42:14 <red1> jajaja
Jan 25 06:42:24 <moyses> what is that??
Jan 25 06:42:25 <red1> their ppl invisible
Jan 25 06:42:27 <moyses> compiere?
Jan 25 06:42:32 <hwinkel> Scipting seems to be fun... ;-) nobody has a I dea about my Historic data question ?
Jan 25 06:42:33 <vpj-cd> posterita
Jan 25 06:42:53 <vpj-cd> they no like I move your class to that work in postgresql
Jan 25 06:43:19 <vpj-cd> dlike not
Jan 25 06:43:23 <vpj-cd> like not
Jan 25 06:43:45 <vpj-cd> but Red1 if they want can reverse my change
Jan 25 06:44:06 <vpj-cd> finallity I use not posterita to my project
Jan 25 06:44:45 <vpj-cd> a POS in web do not is recommendable
Jan 25 06:45:00 <vpj-cd> I create a new swing pos :-)
Jan 25 06:45:09 <moyses> great victor!
Jan 25 06:45:13 <moyses> wise decision!
Jan 25 06:45:33 <moyses> a web client is not a good thing for high data input!
Jan 25 06:45:34 <vpj-cd> the posterita POS you need know of struts
Jan 25 06:45:39 <moyses> it is simply too slow!
Jan 25 06:45:44 <vpj-cd> and the change the code is very slow
Jan 25 06:45:45 <moyses> for the user...
Jan 25 06:46:01 <vpj-cd> yes and the issue is have control the events
Jan 25 06:46:02 <moyses> that'st why openbravo is not big deal
Jan 25 06:46:05 <moyses> :)
Jan 25 06:46:38 <moyses> only a webclient for an erp application is simply a NO GO!
Jan 25 06:49:15 <vpj-cd> mm I think can be
Jan 25 06:49:38 <vpj-cd> if web work same way that a swing
Jan 25 06:49:48 <vpj-cd> and it we can get with GWT :-)
Jan 25 06:50:34 <vpj-cd> ok Moy you have the test the script engine use Phyton
Jan 25 06:50:37 <hwinkel> or http://mygwt.net/
Jan 25 06:50:50 <vpj-cd> haaa
Jan 25 06:50:52 <hwinkel> has a little bit more widgets
Jan 25 06:50:56 <vpj-cd> mygwt.net is gwt
Jan 25 06:50:58 <hwinkel> as standart GWT
Jan 25 06:51:19 <vpj-cd> yes I say GWT as tecnology
Jan 25 06:51:21 <vpj-cd> :-)
Jan 25 06:51:23 <moyses> I can see it in the near future...
Jan 25 06:51:58 <moyses> you can put your effort in other stuff victor :)
Jan 25 06:52:19 <vpj-cd> jajaja
Jan 25 06:52:22 <vpj-cd> http://code.google.com/p/gwt-ext/
Jan 25 06:52:34 <hwinkel> here is the overwiew: http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/01/gwt-frameworks
Jan 25 06:52:35 <vpj-cd> e-evolution are contract 2 developers
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Jan 25 06:52:45 <vpj-cd> to development the Adempiere in GWT
Jan 25 06:53:05 <vpj-cd> we have are in top vs OB and Compiere
Jan 25 06:53:11 <moyses> looks like an investment for the future...
Jan 25 06:53:19 <vpj-cd> now unique that OB have is the nice ui
Jan 25 06:53:21 <vpj-cd> :-)
Jan 25 06:53:30 <vpj-cd> GWT is the future
Jan 25 06:53:45 <vpj-cd> join with Gphone and android :-)
Jan 25 06:54:10 <moyses> in my opinion adempiere needs NOW an easier way to input data
Jan 25 06:54:18 <vpj-cd> but this e-evolution go to ui web :-)
Jan 25 06:54:27 <vpj-cd> haaa
Jan 25 06:54:30 <vpj-cd> this improve
Jan 25 06:54:38 <moyses> something like grid data entry
Jan 25 06:54:39 <vpj-cd> with master detail
Jan 25 06:54:45 <moyses> but not at all...
Jan 25 06:54:49 <vpj-cd> now this are work
Jan 25 06:54:56 <moyses> you still need a mouse...for it...
Jan 25 06:55:00 <vpj-cd> Low fixed the bugs
Jan 25 06:55:05 <vpj-cd> haaa
Jan 25 06:55:12 <vpj-cd> yes it need are improve
Jan 25 06:55:20 <vpj-cd> but we go good
Jan 25 06:55:28 <moyses> for my it needs something similar...to a POS
Jan 25 06:55:32 <moyses> fool probe data input!
Jan 25 06:55:35 <vpj-cd> now you can entry data in single screen
Jan 25 06:55:38 <moyses> fast! unclutered!
Jan 25 06:56:06 <moyses> a non scary interface for the final user
Jan 25 06:56:08 <moyses> :)
Jan 25 06:56:17 <vpj-cd> the issue is that adempiere now validate
Jan 25 06:56:24 <red1> yes vpj-cd i have heard of the GPhone and Android projects
Jan 25 06:56:26 <vpj-cd> with each record
Jan 25 06:56:38 <vpj-cd> and even need validate each field
Jan 25 06:56:39 <red1> its big Google stuff....i hope its not hype... but its OS
Jan 25 06:56:57 <red1> we can study how long the path to master
Jan 25 06:57:08 <red1> strategy is to bring to market fast
Jan 25 06:57:23 <vpj-cd> the future is the web
Jan 25 06:57:27 <red1> 'market' <--- a nice word to make ppl 'feel good' :-)
Jan 25 06:57:38 <moyses> the question victor is...
Jan 25 06:57:43 <moyses> is the market ready for the future???
Jan 25 06:57:44 <vpj-cd> yes web is marketing
Jan 25 06:58:02 <vpj-cd> you need are in future
Jan 25 06:58:04 <hwinkel> Can I ask my question about historic data again ?
Jan 25 06:58:05 <red1> trunk still cannot update...
Jan 25 06:58:07 <red1> will return later
Jan 25 06:58:13 <vpj-cd> the people is ready to ipod :-)
Jan 25 06:58:14 <hwinkel> we need a answer for that
Jan 25 06:58:26 <vpj-cd> what is your question?
Jan 25 06:58:32 <red1> hwinkel, .. can u post that?
Jan 25 06:58:35 <vpj-cd> waht history data
Jan 25 06:58:38 <vpj-cd> ?
Jan 25 06:58:38 <red1> maybe others not here can answer that
Jan 25 06:58:40 <hwinkel> Hi... anybody know the issue with historic / temporal date (i.e. invoices, qoutes) expained here http://tinyerp.org/wiki/index.php/Main/GermanNeedsEn and here: http://www.tinyerp.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132 will be adressed in Adempiere ?
Jan 25 06:58:54 <red1> u better post that to FR
Jan 25 06:59:01 <red1> i m sure it will be read by more there
Jan 25 06:59:28 <hwinkel> FR - Forum @ SF.net ?
Jan 25 07:00:16 <red1> Feature Request
Jan 25 07:00:22 <hwinkel> ok
Jan 25 07:00:30 <red1> or just in the any sub forum of the topic

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